Basic Program Requirements for Aircrew

Navy Aircrewman Program

August 12th, 2009
Navy Aircrew Wings

Navy Aircrew Wings

The Aircrewman Program is a six-year enlistment program guaranteeing an initial flying assignment as a flight crewmember in fixed wing or helicopter aircraft and provides for training via various Class “A” Schools for a specific service rating within the Naval Aircrewman (AW) general rating. You will undergo some of the most demanding physical training offered by the military services in this program. You must volunteer for flying duty, be capable of passing a Class II swim test, and pass an aviation flight physical. You must be made aware that your entrance physical examination will be verified for flight qualifications at Recruit Training Command and Naval Aircrewman Candidate School (NACCS).

QUALIFICATIONS. You must meet all enlistment eligibility requirements, and the following additional requirements.

ASVAB
You must have a minimum score of VE+AR+MK+MC=210 or VE+AR+MK+AS=210. Your ASVAB scores will be reviewed upon classification at NACCS to ensure further qualification for a specific source rating.
Age
You must be 30 years of age or less at the time of accession (date you leave for boot-camp).
Physical Fitness
While in Delayed Entry Program, but prior to shipping, Aircrew candidates must pass the Navy’s Physical Readiness Test (PRT) with a score of satisfactory-medium (Good) for your age and gender (refer to chart from OPNAVINST 6110.1). Aircrew candidates shall sign a Hold Harmless Agreement prior to being administered the PRT.
Drug Usage
Use of illegal or controlled substances is cause for application disapproval due to the inherently hazardous nature of this program. Drug waivers will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
Citizenship
Must be a U.S. citizen.
Education
Must be a high school graduate.
Eyes and Vision
Normal color and depth perception. Vision must correct to 20/20 in both eyes and correction must be worn.
Hearing Standards
In accordance with MANMED P-117, Article 15-92, applicants must meet the hearing standards for Student Naval Aviator (SNA) as follows;

Aircrew Hearing Standards
Frequency (hz) Decibel (dB)
500 25
1000 25
2000 25
3000 45
4000 55

Those applying for aviation programs are held to strict physical standards and therefore are less likely to be recommended for program waivers.

SECURITY CLEARANCE. You must have citizenship and character requirements to be granted a SECRET clearance and meet reliability standards for assignment to the Personnel Reliability Program (PRP as specified in SECNAVINST 5510.30). A complete PRP screen is not required for enlistment.

AW Rating Badge insignia

AW Rating Badge Insignia

SERVICE RATINGS. Men and Women enlisted in the Aircrew program will be assigned to one of the following service ratings within the Naval Aircrewman (AW) general rating: Aircrewman Helicopter (AWS), Aircrewman Operator (AWO), Aircrewman Mechanical (AWF), or Aircrewman Avionics (AWV). Assignment to a specific class “A” school for a service rating within the program will be made while assigned to Naval Aircrew Candidate School (NACCS) and will be based on the applicant’s test scores, personal desires, needs of the Navy, and continued eligibility for the Aircrew program.
TRAINING CYCLE. Trainees are normally assigned to Class “A” School immediately after completion of NACCS. The normal training cycle is:

  1. Recruit Training (Great Lakes, IL)
  2. Naval Aircrew Candidate School (Pensacola, FL)
  3. Class “A” School (Pensacola, FL)
  4. Survival Evasion Resistance Escape (SERE) School (San Diego, CA or Brunswick, ME)
  5. Fleet Replacement Squadron (FRS) various locales)
  6. Initial squadron assignment (various locales)

Naval Aircrewman Mechanical (AWF)
The AWF are members of a fixed wing integrated tactical crew aboard C-2, C-9, C-12, C-20, C-37, C-40, C-130, E-6, and P-3 aircraft. They perform primary in-flight and ground duties as aircraft Flight Engineer/Crew Chief, Loadmaster, Reel Operator, and Aircrew Readiness Manager. AWFs perform aircraft maintenance, weight and balance (W&B) calculations, and aircraft systems rigging, Aircrew administration, Flight/Ground training, cargo movement, Medical Evacuations (MEDEVAC), passenger transport, small arms, and Joint Special Warfare operations. They contribute directly to operations for the purposes of attaining and maintaining the squadron’s aircrew qualifications and certifications, and are knowledgeable of all aircraft systems, passenger and cargo handling, safety procedures and equipment, federal and military regulations for passenger transport, emergency procedures, and aircraft equipment.
Naval Aircrewman (Operator) (AWO)
The AWO produce intelligence products for aircrews in support of operations and tactical missions worldwide. They detect, analyze, classify, and track surface and subsurface contacts. AWOs operate an advanced sonar system utilizing sonobouys, radar, Electronic Support Measures (ESM), Magnetic Anomaly Detector (MAD), Identification Friend or Foe/Selective Identification Feature (IFF/SIF), and Infrared Detector (IR). They perform aircrew duties that support mission planning, classified material handling, and training. They handle ordnance, inspect acoustic station equipment, and operate mission equipment such as: advanced imaging multi-spectral sensors, radar for safety of flight, and hand-held cameras.
Naval Aircrewman (Helicopter) (AWS)
The AWS are members of multi-mission helicopter integrated tactical crews. They perform Search And Rescue (SAR) operations, Airborne Mine Countermeasure (AMCM) operations utilizing sonar, magnetic, mechanical, and acoustic mine sweeping systems and logistics support. AWSs perform aircrew operations administration, flight and ground training, internal and external cargo movement, Medical Evacuations (MEDEVAC), passenger transport, aerial gunnery, small arms handling, Naval Special Warfare (NSW) insertion and extraction operations, Vertical Replenishment (VERTREP), and Night Vision Device (NVD) operations, and conduct observer duties for safety of flight.
Naval Aircrewman (Avionics) (AWV)
The AWV are members of a fixed wing integrated tactical aircrew aboard maritime patrol and reconnaissance, and command and control aircraft. They are knowledgeable of all avionics systems, safety equipment, emergency procedures, and aircraft equipment. AWVs perform primary in-flight and ground duties as aircraft in-flight technicians, Electronic Intelligence (ELINT) specialists, and airborne communicators who maintain and operate aircraft systems. They pilot and maintain Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV), operate aerial photographic equipment, and perform aircrew administration, flight and ground training, ordnance handling duties, joint special warfare operations, and Communications Material Security (CMS) handling.

Career Sea – Shore Rotation Chart

Sea (SEA) Shore (SHR) Rotation
Rating SEA1 SHR1 SEA2 SHR2 SEA3 SHR3 SEA4 SHR4 SEA/SHR
AW(ALL) 60 36 54 36 42 36 36 36 36/36

Sea tours and shore tours for Sailors that have completed four sea tours will be 36 months at sea followed by 36 ashore until retirement.

Aircrew Rescue Swimmer (AIRR)
Rescue swimmers may be required to risk their lives during a rescue over-land or at-sea. They will be required to enter the open ocean from a hovering helicopter and swim to the survivor. Upon reaching the survivor, the swimmer utilizes appropriate rescue techniques and prepares for hook-up to the rescue hoist. A survivor in a state of panic may force the swimmer underwater, but training and techniques taught to rescue swimmers will allow them to overcome this situation. Once the swimmer and the survivor are in the aircraft, the swimmer provides advanced first aid until medical assistance is available. For additional qualification information about the Aircrew Rescue Swimmer (AIRR), review the Navy Challenge Program information.

ENLISTMENT TERM. You must enlist in the U.S. Navy or in the Full Time Support (FTS) Enlistment Program for four years and concurrently execute an Agreement to Extend Enlistment (NAVPERS 1070/621 or NAVPERS 1070/622) for 24 months using the following narrative reason entry:

“Training in the Aircrewman Program and accelerated advancement to paygrade E4 in accordance with MILPERSMAN Article 1220-010. Accelerated advancement to E4 is authorized only after successful completion of Naval Aircrew Candidate School, Class “A” School, and Fleet Replacement Squadron training. I understand that this extension becomes binding upon execution and thereafter may not be canceled except as set forth in MILPERSMAN Article 1160-040.

AIRCREWMAN PROGRAM SCREENING. For program moral conduct eligibility requirements (if you have prior civil/criminal offenses) see your local Navy Recruiter for type of offenses which may disqualify you or to determine the appropriate waiver authority.

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  1. Tanner says:
    December 26, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    To be in aircrew is it a minimum of 6 years of service? Also, if you have 20/20 in one eye and 20/25 in the other does that disqualify you from any type of aviation jobs?

  2. NCCM(ret) says:
    December 27, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Tanner,

    Yes, AW (Aircrew) is a 6 year enlistment. A couple of aviation ratings, AG and AS, do not require that your vision correct to 20/20.

  3. AME2(AW) says:
    March 22, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    I have been in the NAVY for 3 and 1/2 years. I have 3 1/2 more years to go. Do I have to extend or reenlist?

  4. NCCM(ret) says:
    March 22, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    AME2(AW),

    You are gonna have to be a lot more specific, but I’ll take a stab at it.

    If you are entering a program that requires 48 months of service, then you will have to tack on an additional 6 months to the 42 months you already have left – your CCC or the school you may be attending, if it is required, will provide you with the appropriate paperwork.

  5. AT3 L says:
    March 28, 2012 at 2:16 am

    I have the option to cross rate over to AWF, but the AWF rate is going away very soon. The P-3 platform will be gone by 2019 and the P-8 platform will be in full swing. What does that do for the AWF personell? Will they be offered other AW rates or cross rate to another rate?

  6. NCCM(ret) says:
    March 28, 2012 at 6:39 am

    AT3 L.,

    I haven’t heard the rating was going away. You should have your CCC contact the ECM to see if there is a plan in the works, and how it would affect you.

  7. CS3(SCW) says:
    March 28, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    I wish to cross rate from CS to AWO, would I have to cross rate to a different aviations rate and then voulinteer for AWO, or can I go straight into it?

  8. NCCM(ret) says:
    March 28, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    CS3,

    AWO is a rating – check with your CCC, but I believe AWO A school is required in order to cross rate.

  9. Chris says:
    May 18, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    NCCM,

    I just enlisted in ATF AIRC/NAT and have a few questions about the program. Both my recruiting office and MEPS seem to know very little about it. Hopefully you can shed some light on the subject.

    Is the reserve training for Aircrew the same as active, go to NACCS etc?

    Do reservists go to the FRS after school or back home to the reserve center?

    My recruiter’s chief wants me to go AIRC/FTS. I am not totally opposed to this, but he is really trying hard to sell me full time. Any insight into his motivation, more points or such?

    I have a Med waiver for history of several atypical moles, will I need a seperate waiver for the aircrew program?

    You list the age requirement on this page as 30, I am 31 and will be 32 before ascension. The NPC website under aviation does not list an age limit. Is this just out of date?

    The NPC website also says I will need to pass the navy PFT before shipping, is this done by my recruiter or at meps?

    Thank you very much for youre time

  10. NCCM(Ret) says:
    May 18, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Chris,

    All the training is the same – active and Reserve.

    According to instruction:

    While in DEP, but prior to shipping, Aircrew candidates must pass the Navy’s Physical Readiness Test (PRT) with a score of satisfactory-medium (sat-medium) for their age and gender (refer to OPNAVINST 6110.1). Aircrew candidates shall sign a Hold Harmless Agreement prior to being administered the PRT.

    You can find the physical requirements here (this page is updated to the current 6110.1 – the current 6110.1 no longer uses a sat-medium, you would need to ask your recruiter which new level is required) – http://www.navycs.com/navy-fitness-assessment.html

    I share your concern about the age. Unless you have an age waiver, the instruction clearly states, “Applicants must be 30 years of age or less at the time of enlistment.” The instruction I am referring to is COMNAVCRUITCOMINST 1130.8J (Change 2 dated 26APR2012), Volume IV, Chapter 1, Section 7, Page 1, Article 010701 “Aircrewman Program”.

  11. AA FARRIS says:
    September 10, 2012 at 9:24 am

    Hey there,
    Everybody’s comments have been super helpful. I just finished NACCS and loved every minute of it. If you have any questions about the format of that school house, feel free to ask!
    I am a reservist going into the AWF rating and was curious about the training. I have heard rumors that they aren’t sending FTS or Reserve to SERE or FRS anymore because of money constraints. I don’t know that I believe this though (it wouldn’t make sense to only do half the training for your job, that just seems weird to me). Do any of you know whether or not this statement is accurate or just plain scuttlebutt? I have been trying to talk to my former instructor but haven’t been able to get a hold of him. Any information regarding this would be super helpful!

  12. EM2 prior service says:
    September 15, 2012 at 3:52 am

    Hi: I’m prior service, 4 years active duty Navy as an EM; very interested in joining Navy Reserve in the AW rating, I’m 34, would I be able to get an age waiver because of my prior service?

  13. NCCM(Ret) says:
    September 15, 2012 at 6:20 am

    EM2,

    Age waivers for this program are unlikely, even for prior service.

  14. EN3(SW) Pollinger says:
    September 15, 2012 at 8:30 am

    NCCM(RET,

    I have been in the Navy for 3 years currently. Recently just got PTS approved for the rate of AM. I am very interested in this job, being the mechanical experience I have gained since being in Guam, working on diesel engines. I plan on re-enlisting sometime between March and April for 6 more years. However it has been my dream to be an Aircrewman since I have been in the Navy. Would I be able to volunteer once I am at the AM “A” school? I meet all the requirements for Aircrewman. I have 20/20 vison. My hearing is near perfect, I have got an Outstanding on the last 3 PRT’s, Already Second Class Swim qualed and also have a Secret clearance. If there is any info at all you could give me it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Master Chief (Ret),

    Very Respectfully,

    EN3(SW) Pollinger

  15. NCCM(Ret) says:
    September 15, 2012 at 8:43 am

    EN3(SW),

    I do recommend that you sit down with your CCC and get specific answers to each of your questions, but AW (AIRCREWMAN) is a separate rating, and once you go to AM “A” School you will be expected to serve as an AM. I am not aware of any provision the different Airdale schools might have for cross rating into AW, I doubt they have one.

  16. David says:
    October 27, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    I am going to enlist and join the AIRR program. I know it is a extreemly difficult course. I am a good swimmer but i know it takes more, what should i do to better prepare for AIRR program.

  17. NCCS (RET) says:
    October 28, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    David – NCCM asked me to respond to your question about preperations for AIRR. I spent the 1st 12 years of my 24 year Navy career as an AW/Rescue Swimmer. My brother is currently an AWRC in Mayport, FL, so I have kept up with the rate. My advice to you is to work hard on your cardio and mastering your swimming skills. You need to get to the point where you can run 5 miles and feel comfortable. Start at 1 mile and work your self up to the 5 mile point. I would also recommend that you spend a lot of time in the pool and with swim fins on. Swimming with fins uses different muscles than normal swimming, so the more you just swim around with fins on, the better aclimated you will be for the training you will get at RSS. One the the main issues that recruits have with the AIRR requirements are the pull-ups. make sure you can bust out 10 of those without issue. It’s not all about strength, but more about conditioning your arms to perform. if you have any specific questions that I have not answered, please email me at CRF4LIFE[at]yahoo.com ([at] = @) I will put you in touch with current rescue swimmers.

  18. RP2(FMF) says:
    November 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Hello all. I just hit my 5 year mark with the Navy and have only been FMF. I kind of want to crossrate out of RP and am looking at NC(Fleet) and AWO. I just took my first test for first class.

    My concern is that if I go AWO the rate is technical enough that I would have a very difficult time advancing against people with 6 years more experience in the rate compared to me – where if I go NC or stay RP I will be an E-6 in another 2 years tops barring extenuating circumstances. Is this a concern I should really worry about? Also, I notice that NCCS used to be AW then crossrated, to the other rate I am interested in! Just kind of looking for advice from somebody who is not a HM or an RP. Thanks in advance!

    V/r,
    RP2

  19. NCCM(Ret) says:
    November 13, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    RP2(FMF),

    I can tell you that I was an ET before I crossed to NC; main driver? As an ET, all trons flow the same direction — it can get boring. As an NC, your “equipment” is people, and every single one of them are different, so you have less chance of getting bored. I loved the personal interactions over the technical ones.

  20. RP2(FMF) says:
    November 13, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Master Chief,

    Wow thank you for such a quick response!

    I have kind of been leaning the same way, I actually tried to cross rate to be a sub IDC (HM) but HM is overmanned at my paygrade and the ECM said no. I also like working working with people, which is one of the things I like about being an RP, but as an RP it seems like all the “equipment” I get to work with is broken or just wants out of the Navy, my job is too easy and not very satisfying. That and the future of my rating seems very uncertain with the proposed budget cuts on the horizon…

    I am coming off of sea duty next December (13) would you recommend cross-rating now to NC (assuming I choose that) or waiting until after my shore duty tour? My understanding is that if I go NC I will immediately go to some type of sea duty – which I want to do, but I just don’t want to hose over my family.

    Thanks for the input Master Chief!

    V/r,
    RP2

  21. NCCM(Ret) says:
    November 13, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    RP2(FMF),

    I recommend doing everything sooner than later — it’s a, “why put off til tomorrow what you could do today” sort thing, but really, you do need to sit down with a local counselor and your family to figure it out. I understand the desire for a solid shore tour — it may not be a bad idea to call the NC detailer, perhaps even the ECM, just to have a conversation; I am sure they would have no problem spending time discussing options with you because you are in fact so far removed while serving in FMF.

  22. Candis says:
    December 3, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    While I was deployed I got orders to ETDPACFLT. I have to attend NACCS in Pensacola,FL on 06DEC12. I am FTS CS2 and was wondering what will I be expecting.

    [Last Name Redacted for Privacy]

  23. navyboy08 says:
    January 27, 2013 at 10:38 am

    Hi I have some interest in joining the navy as a pilot what training could I be expecting

  24. NCCM(Ret) says:
    January 27, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Navyboy08,

    Everything I know about how to become a Navy pilot is on this page (not being an Airdale, my knowledge is somewhat limited, but the info should help :)) —>> http://www.navycs.com/officer/aviationofficer.html

  25. navyboy08 says:
    January 27, 2013 at 10:43 am

    I also had some interest in joining the marines what does being in the navy have to offer that the marines don’t? please respond asap

  26. navyboy08 says:
    January 27, 2013 at 10:45 am

    NCCM (ret)
    thank you so much for responding and giving me the website this is very helpful :)

  27. navyboy08 says:
    January 27, 2013 at 10:48 am

    I was also wondering if there were some books or something I can read to prep me for flying

  28. navyboy08 says:
    January 27, 2013 at 11:00 am

    sorry for all the questions just curious…..where is navy boot camp located for pilots?

  29. NCCM(Ret) says:
    January 27, 2013 at 11:22 am

    Navyboy08,

    There isn’t a boot-camp per se, the training regiment and locations are on the page I provided. As far as what books to read up with, I really do not have any suggestions — beyond being stationed aboard an aircraft carrier, I do not have an aviation background; however, The Steeljaw Scribe was a Navy pilot, and he might be able to provide you with some guidance http://steeljawscribe.com/ also,, this forum might be a good place to start –>> http://www.airwarriors.com/community/

  30. navyboy08 says:
    January 27, 2013 at 11:39 am

    thank you so much for all the help ….what does being a navy airman have to offer that the marines dont

  31. DC2 says:
    March 19, 2013 at 5:46 am

    I’m currently active duty, but will be transitioning to SELRES in JUN and have PTS to AWF. What (if anyone knows) will I be doing as AWF in the reserves?

  32. Navy3 says:
    March 23, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    Joining rescue swimming. How often are you out at sea deployed to home?

  33. AWV2 says:
    March 31, 2013 at 7:53 am

    DC2,

    I am Active Duty at a reserve P-3 squadron and we have plenty of reserve AWF’s. They serve as flight engineers on the P-3 platform. AWF’s also serve as Load Masters who balance and load aircraft cargo on larger planes and they are on personnel transport aircraft and do a job that somewhat resembles a flight attendants job (take off/landing readiness, serve food/drinks) but on only military aircraft.

  34. AWV2 says:
    March 31, 2013 at 8:05 am

    Navy3,

    I have no experience on a ship as my platform only takes off from shore based installments. I am also not a rescue swimmer so I’ll be shooting in the dark for this one. The career sea/shore rotation chart above describes how long you will hold a sea billet compared to a shore billet. For my platform (P-3) we are on a 6 month deployment (for rescue swimmers you would most likely be at sea for this portion) and then a year long home cycle (for rescue swimmers they would be attached to a shore based command for training). So for your first sea rotation you would repeat that cycle.

    For your shore rotation you would have many options such as becoming an instructor at Aircrew Candidate school, rescue swimmer instructor or whatever other shore based billets are available. Key word being shore based and you would most likely not be at sea.

  35. NCCM(Ret) says:
    March 31, 2013 at 8:18 am

    AWV2,

    Thank you for the insight! I know everyone appreciates the insight you provided into the AW rating; I have absolutely no Airdale experience — again, thank you!

  36. AWV2 says:
    March 31, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    Master Chief,

    I just had a meeting with the NC1 at our command last week relating to the AWV rating since the P-3′s are going away in a few years and he was an encyclopedia of knowledge as far as my options moving forward. I can definitely appreciate the job you guys do in leading sailors in the right direction in their careers. Thank you for your service.

    Back to the subject at hand; I am subscribed to this thread and look forward to answering anymore questions about our Flyers or the process in becoming one.

  37. NavyFit87 says:
    April 1, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Going in for FTS aircrew and heard that there are only two jobs under that…AWF and another one…i saw what AWF is but what does the other job entail?

  38. AWV2 says:
    April 1, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    Navyfit87,

    The other option you were most likely given was AWO. There are two subcategories for AWO’s, acoustic and non-acoustic. The description for them above is correct but they are split into two jobs. As an acoustic operator you will be tracking submarines looking at information provided by sonobuoys that were deployed in the water. As a non-acoustic operator you will be using an aircraft camera, using radar, and tracking subs with a simpler system than the acoustics. Since I have been in the navy the acoustic job has been talked about as the “smarter” job and the non-acoustics the “cooler” job.

    Hope that helped.

  39. Minhal [Last name redacted for privacy] says:
    April 3, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Hi,

    As of yesterday I enlisted for Advanced Technical Aircrewman, I am going through the process you speak of, I am not a well swimmer by any means, I am physically fit though. How can I prepare for naccs in correlation to swimming?

  40. AWV2 says:
    April 3, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    Minhal,

    If you are in decent shape you won’t have too much to worry about. A lot of people struggle with the swimming portion so you’re not alone. For the sub par swimmers they have remedial swim classes and the people I knew who went through that were caught up in the swimming department in max 2 weeks.

    Swimming is a high risk activity so whenever you practice make sure there is a lifeguard or at the least a buddy who can look after you. Practice treading water because that will be the most difficult task you face. One of the final tests is treading in a full flight suit, boots, helmet, and flight vest. This final test isn’t until 4 weeks of being in the pool 5 days a week training so they work you up to it. Stay physically fit and they will teach you the rest.

  41. Melissa says:
    May 21, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    My son is currently in BC and graduates in a couple of weeks. He is going Aircrew. He is enlisted as FTS. I think he will be AWF. After all training is completed, where can I expect him to be stationed? I realize that is a broad question, just trying to get an idea of where he may be headed. Thanks in advance!

  42. AWV2 says:
    May 21, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    Melissa,

    If by BC you mean basic then he will be in Pensacola for around a year. Assuming he is an AWF his fate branches off depending on what aircraft he is on. For P-3s he will be in Jacksonville for about 14 months then get stationed in either Hawaii, Whidbey Island or Jacksonville for his first tour. If he is on C-130s he will be in Texas for a few months then end up most likely in Jacksonville. C-9s and other passenger aircraft he could be anywhere since those utilize many civilian airports. Hope I could provide some insight.

  43. Melissa says:
    May 21, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Thank you so much. That is very helpful! And thanks for responding so quickly!

  44. Melissa says:
    May 22, 2013 at 8:01 am

    Just to clarify, he is Navy Reservist with Full time Support designation. My understanding is that he has a 6 year commitment with 2 additional years of “call back”. Do those potential stations still apply?

  45. AWV2 says:
    May 22, 2013 at 8:47 am

    Melissa,

    I work with and fly with FTS everyday in Whidbey Island. I would have to assume they are at the same commands as mentioned earlier but I’m not 100% on that. In my eyes FTS is no different than active but they do fall under a reservist billet so its possible he could only be at a reserve command. But yes he will have 2 years of call back once his 6 year contract is up. If he reenlists after 6 and overlaps those 2 years they are obsolete.

  46. Melissa says:
    May 22, 2013 at 8:58 am

    Thanks again! You’ve put my mind at ease.

  47. Hunter says:
    May 23, 2013 at 3:35 am

    I really want to get into aerial gunnery. What should I do in Candidate School to try and get this?

  48. AWV2 says:
    May 23, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    Hunter,

    Your best bet is to get the dry helo spot out of your candidate class. I was in a class of 12 to 15 and they gave out 1 dry helo position. Just as about the position when you arrive at school and show the motivation to get what you want. This position usually is a sub hunter on helicopters and I’ve never heard of someone in this spot actually getting a shot off in the helo.

    Honestly if you’re that gung ho about becoming a door gunner in helicopters, your best bet is to join the Army or Marines and inform the recruiter about your aspirations. Best of luck to you.

  49. navyfit87 says:
    June 14, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    hey i have heard some mixed info about FTS and regular Aircrew. Are they both given the same jobs or do the FTS get only two different ones?

  50. AWV2 says:
    June 15, 2013 at 12:05 am

    Fit guy,

    FTS is “regular” aircrew but technically they fall under reserve billets. I am on active duty and I am considered FTS because I am at a reserve squadron. If you enlist as FTS you are most likely an AWF but it is possible for AWO. Hope that helps

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