Written by Thomas Goering, NCCM USN(RET)
Published: June 28, 2012
Updated: June 21, 2017
UPDATE: NAVADMIN 143/17 details the new HYT limits for pay grades E-4 through E-6.
ATTENTION INVITED TO
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FM CNO WASHINGTON DC
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INFO ZEN/CNO WASHINGTON DC
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SUBJ: MODIFICATIONS TO ENLISTED HIGH YEAR TENURE FOR ACTIVE, FULL TIME
SUPPORT AND SELECTED RESERVE PERSONNEL UNCLASSIFIED/ FM CNO WASHINGTON
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MSGID/GENADMIN/CNO WASHINGTON DC/N1/JUN//
SUBJ/MODIFICATIONS TO ENLISTED HIGH YEAR TENURE FOR ACTIVE, FULL TIME SUPPORT
AND SELECTED RESERVE PERSONNEL//
NARR/REF A IS NAVADMIN 030/12 ANNOUNCING MODIFICATIONS TO ENLISTED HIGH YEAR
TENURE (HYT) FOR ACTIVE, FULL TIME SUPPORT (FTS), AND SELECTED RESERVE
(SELRES) PERSONNEL. REF B IS MILPERSMAN 1160-120 HIGH YEAR TENURE. REF C IS
MILPERSMAN 1160-130 SELECTED RESERVE (SELRES) HIGH YEAR TENURE POLICY.
RMKS/1. THIS NAVADMIN HIGHLIGHTS HIGH YEAR TENURE (HYT) POLICY CHANGES THAT
ARE EFFECTIVE 1 JULY 2012 AS ANNOUNCED IN REF A AND INCORPORATED IN REF B.
REF C IS CANCELLED EFFECTIVE 1 JULY 2012.
2. THE FOLLOWING SUMMARY IS PROVIDED AS A REMINDER OF THE MAJOR HYT POLICY
CHANGES THAT BECOME EFFECTIVE ON 1 JULY 2012 PER REFS A AND B. THESE CHANGES
REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATION FROM PREVIOUS HYT POLICY. REF B,
MILPERSMAN 1160-120 HIGH YEAR TENURE SHOULD BE READ IN ITS ENTIRETY.
A. REDUCTION IN HYT LIMITS FOR ACTIVE AND FTS E1, E2 AND E3 PERSONNEL.
E1, E2 AND E3 PERSONNEL WHO ARE ALREADY PAST THE MODIFIED HYT LIMITS WHEN THE
POLICY GOES IN TO EFFECT ON 1 JULY 2012, WILL SEPARATE NO LATER THAN 31 MARCH
2013 UNLESS THEY RECEIVE A HYT WAIVER, OR ARE SUBSEQUENTLY ADVANCED TO A
PAYGRADE OF A HIGHER HYT LIMIT. E1, E2 AND E3 PERSONNEL WHO REACH HYT AFTER 1
JULY 2012 WILL SEPARATE ACCORDING TO THE NEW HYT LIMIT, OR BY 31 MARCH 2013,
WHICHEVER IS LATER, UNLESS THEY RECEIVE A HYT WAIVER, OR ARE SUBSEQUENTLY
ADVANCED TO A PAY GRADE WITH A HIGHER HYT LIMIT.
B. ELIMINATION OF PASS NOT ADVANCED (PNA) FOR E3 PERSONNEL TO REMAIN ON
ACTIVE DUTY FOR EIGHT YEARS. E3 SAILORS WHO HAD THEIR ESTIMATED DATE OF LOSS
TO THE NAVY (EDLN) DATE ADJUSTED TO CONTINUE SERVICE TO THE EIGHT-YEAR LIMIT
UNDER MPM 1160-120 OF 29 OCTOBER 2011, BASED ON A PREVIOUS PNA OF A NAVY-WIDE
ADVANCEMENT EXAM (NWAE), MAY CONTINUE TO SERVE TO THE EIGHT-YEAR HYT LIMIT.
BEGINNING WITH THE MARCH 2012 EXAM, E3 SAILORS WHO PNA A NWAE WILL NOT HAVE
THEIR EDLN DATE ADJUSTED, AND MAY NOT CONTINUE SERVICE BEYOND THE REVISED HYT
C. CANCELLATION OF HYT WAIVERS. APPROVED HYT WAIVERS MAY BE CANCELLED IF
THE REASON THE HYT WAIVER WAS GRANTED IS NOT FULFILLED BY THE SAILOR.
COMMANDS MUST COORDINATE WITH NAVPERSCOM (PERS-8354) FOR ACTIVE DUTY AND FTS
SAILORS, OPNAV N133 FOR NUCLEAR-TRAINED SAILORS, OR NAVPERSCOM (PERS-913) FOR
SELRES SAILORS REGARDING FINAL DISPOSITION OF WAIVER CANCELLATIONS. IF THE
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVER IS CANCELLED, ACTIVE DUTY AND FTS SAILORS WILL BE
SEPARATED WITHIN 120 DAYS OF CANCELLATION UNLESS THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO
TRANSFER TO THE FLEET RESERVE OR RETIRE. SELRES PERSONNEL MUST BE REMOVED
FROM A SELRES STATUS BY THE END OF THE MONTH IN WHICH THE HYT WAIVER
CANCELLATION OCCURRED, AND WILL TRANSFER TO NON-PAY STATUS OR RETIRED RESERVE
(WITH OR WITHOUT PAY) IF RETIREMENT ELIGIBLE.
D. ACTIVE DUTY AND FTS REDUCTION IN RATE (RIR). ACTIVE DUTY AND FTS
PERSONNEL WHO WERE PREVIOUSLY RIR AND EXCEED THE HYT LIMIT FOR THE LOWER
PAYGRADE ON 1 JULY 2012 MUST BE SEPARATED AT THEIR SOFT END OF ACTIVE
OBLIGATED SERVICE (SEAOS) OR 31 DECEMBER 2012, WHICHEVER IS SOONER, UNLESS
THEY ARE GRANTED A HYT WAIVER, REINSTATED, OR SUBSEQUENTLY ADVANCED. UNDER
THE NEW HYT POLICY, SAILORS WHO ARE RIR BEYOND HYT LIMITS WILL HAVE THE
FOLLOWING TIMELINES APPLY:
(1) WHEN HYT DATE IS PRIOR TO, ON, OR WITHIN 180 DAYS OF THE DATE OF
RIR, THE SAILOR SHALL BE SEPARATED 180 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF RIR. SHORT TERM
EXTENSIONS MAY BE AUTHORIZED WHEN A SAILOR HAS INSUFFICIENT OBLIGATED SERVICE
REMAINING TO REACH THE 180-DAY TIMELINE TO ENSURE ADEQUATE TRANSITION TIME.
(2) WHEN HYT DATE IS GREATER THAN 180 DAYS FOLLOWING RIR, THE SAILOR
SHALL BE SEPARATED AT THE NEW HYT LIMIT IF PRIOR TO THEIR SEAOS,OR AT THEIR
SEAOS IF PRIOR TO THE HYT LIMIT PROVIDING THE SAILOR IS ELIGIBLE TO REENLIST
OR EXTEND TO THE HYT LIMIT OF THE CURRENT PAYGRADE.
(3) OPNAV N133 WILL MANAGE NUCLEAR-TRAINED SAILORS WHO ARE RIR, AND
WILL BE THE FINAL DISPOSITION AUTHORITY FOR HYT SEPARATIONS.
(4) THIS POLICY CHANGE DOES NOT AFFECT ACTIVE DUTY AND FTS SAILORS
REDUCED TO E5 WHO MEET THE ACTIVE DUTY SERVICE DATE (ADSD) REQUIREMENTS
DISCRIBED IN MILPERSMAN 1160-120 TO CONTINUE TO 20 YEARS AS AN E5.
3. SELRES REDUCTION IN RATE. SELRES WHO WERE PREVIOUSLY RIR AND EXCEED THE
HYT LIMIT FOR THE LOWER PAYGRADE MUST BE TRANSFERRED TO A NON PAY STATUS BY 31
DECEMBER 2012, UNLESS THEY ARE GRANTED A HYT WAIVER, REINSTATED, OR
SUBSEQUENTLY ADVANCED. UNDER THE NEW HYT POLICY, SAILORS WHO ARE RIR BEYOND
HYT LIMITS WILL HAVE THE FOLLOWING TIMELINES APPLY:
(1) WHEN HYT IS ON OR WITHIN 180 DAYS OF THE DATE OF RIR, THE SAILOR
SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO A NON-PAY STATUS 180 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF RIR.
(2) WHEN HYT DATE IS GREATER THAN 180 DAYS FOLLOWING RIR, THE SAILOR
SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO A NON-PAY STATUS AT THE HYT LIMIT.
4. ACTIVE DUTY AND FTS SAILORS WHO HAVE COMPLETED 18 BUT LESS THAN 20 YEARS
OF SERVICE, AND WERE/ARE RIR, SHALL BE RETAINED ON ACTIVE DUTY UNTIL THEY ARE
ELIGIBLE TO TRANSFER TO THE FLEET RESERVE, UNLESS THEY ARE DISCHARGED UNDER
OTHER PROVISIONS OF LAW. SELRES SAILORS WHO HAVE COMPLETED 18 BUT LESS THAN
20 YEARS OF QUALIFYING SERVICE, AND WERE/ARE RIR, SHALL BE RETAINED IN A
SELRES STATUS UNTIL THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO TRANSFER TO THE RETIRED RESERVES
(WITH OR WITHOUT PAY), UNLESS THEY ARE DISCHARGED UNDER OTHER PROVISIONS OF
5. RESERVISTS BROUGHT ON VOLUNTARY CONTINGENCY ORDERS WHO EXCEED THE
PRESCRIBED SELRES HYT LIMITS, ARE NO LONGER AUTHORIZED TO PARTICIPATE QQQQ IN
THE NWAE WITHOUT AN APPROVED HYT WAIVER FROM PERS-913.
6. COMMANDS SHALL ENSURE THAT PERSONNEL AFFECTED BY UPCOMING POLICY
MODIFICATION RECEIVE COUNSELING ON THE PROVISIONS.
7. POINTS OF CONTACT: NAVY PERSONNEL COMMAND POC IS THE NPC CUSTOMER SERVICE
CENTER AT 1-866-U-ASK-NPC (1-866-827-5672). DIRECT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
REGARDING HYT POLICY TO OPNAV (N132) VIA EMAIL TO NXAG_N132C4A(AT)NAVY.MIL.
8. RELEASED BY VICE ADMIRAL S. R. VAN BUSKIRK, N1.//
27 thoughts on “NAVADMIN 198-12”
What is the likely-hood of a HYT waiver getting approved for 6 months past HYT to obliserv for Recruiting Duty Orders to maintain 36 months time-on-station after C-School and leave? Any information will be greatly appreciated!
HYT waivers are approved by your ECM — even if you were trying for orders to recruiting duty. I have no idea as to whether or not he/she would consider it. I wish I could be of more help.
Very well! Thank you for getting back with me Master Chief! Thank you for your many years of service!
I have an adult child interested in enlisting in the Navy. What truth is there to the rumor of a max 16 year enlistment? Is this a new HYT change?
Where there is a HYT for all paygrades, there is not an overall HYT of 16 years; nor is one in the works. Beyond what is in the NAVADMIN, E-6 is 20 years, E-7 is 24 years, E-8 is 26 years, and E-9 is 30 years.
I have a PO2 and his HYT is 10OCT2014. He’s requesting to extend his EAOS/HYT date to January 2015 for the result of the Sept advancement examination. Is there also another instructions that states you have to have certain amount of time left of EAOS to even take the next advancement exam?
MILPERSMAN 1160-120 is the guiding instruction, and it states,
My HYT is MAR2017 but i reenlisted to OCT2017 and i’m getting stationed overseas.. unaccompanied for 2 years. I’m getting married and they are saying that i would have to make E5 to have my wife accompany me and get sponsored to come over because the accompanied orders is for 3 years..my question is if i make E5in 2016.. will i be able to change my orders for the next almost 2 years to accompanied so she can come over and be with me?
Your’s is a funding question — I have no idea what your detailer will be able to approve.
I am a drilling reservist and I took the advancement exam in August of 2014, this was my last drill prior to me reaching my HYT as an E5. I found out in November that I had passed the advancement exam and was to be promoted to E6. I had been in VTU for 3 months. I found out through the NOSC that I can not be advanced. What if any choice do I have in the matter, can I or can I not be advanced. I want to get out of VTU and go back drilling reservist.
If your HYT date was before your advancement date (not the exam date), then you would not be allowed to advance; you would have been discharged at HYT.
If my EAOS is 5 months away from my HYT date, will I need a C-way quota to extend up to my HYT date?
Having retired prior to the implementation of C-Way quotas, I am not 100% sure of their use in the case you inquire. My understanding, however, is that they are only required for reenlistments, and not for short term extensions on station. Once you do find the correct answer (I assume you will be following up with your CCC), I’d love to hear what you were instructed.
Good luck, and have a safe and happy New Year!
Im a e3 and my eaos is june2016. I was told im at my HYT mark. I joined june2012, how many years do I really have to be a e3? Some people say 5 and 8. If I extend now til june 2017 can I reenlist for 3yrs and get my bonus if ones available?
Your HYT is 5 years. For it to be 8 years, you would have had to PNA the E-4 exam during the March 2012 cycle per MILPERSMAN 1160-120. You cannot extend or reenlist past your HYT date.
If a member has a HYT date of 03DEC2016 and are up for orders with the PRD being 03JAN2015. Will they consider HYT extension of one month, if the gaining command requires 12 month orders? What are some reasons for HYT extensions and is it all based on that rating communties needs?
HYT waivers all must go through the rating ECM.
My husband is an E4 and has just found out he has not made rate and is at his HYT.He plans to go into the reserves right after.Can he gain rank in the reserves then go back active duty?
Rank that is earned while in the Reserve is not automatically transferable to active duty; for the higher pay grade earned in the Reserve to be kept, the Enlisted Community Manager for the rating he is reenlisting must approve it.
If a member has EAOS date of Feb 2018, can he extend to his HYT date of June 2018?
I got out in 2013 (14 years in) due to hyt and I want to return in some kind way to the navy… Can I go reserves or Fts? I really want to go fts. I miss the navy life
You haven’t indicated what our discharge rank was, but I will assume PO2 — for the Reserve, non-FTS, you would be eligible based strictly on time (not considering any other factors) because with less than 16 years of active service, you are good-to-go.
My EAOS is on June 2017, my HYT is June 2018. Do I need to submit a 1306 in order to match or change my EAOS date to become HYT date. Is it automatic that I will get out on my HYT date versus my EAOS date, if ever I didn’t make HM1?
Just found out I didn’t pick up rank. Now I’m set to get out HYT in Apr17. Is there anyway to go FTS or am I out of luck.
HYT applies to both active and FTS. I highly recommend that you contact a Recruiter about potential affiliation with the Reserve opportunities.
IS THERE AN INSTRUCTION (NAVADMIN) THAT STATES IF A SAILOR IS PAST 17 YEARS OF A HYT EXTENSION AND THE ECM/DETAILER APPROVES ANOTHER 12 MONTH EXTENSION WAIVER REQUEST THAT TAKES THE SAILOR TO 18 YEARS, THEY HAVE TO BE ALLOWED TO FINISH THE 20 YEARS?
There isn’t a NAVADMIN that I am aware of, but MILPERSMAN 1160-120, “High Year Tenure”, discusses it, but not sure it pertains to you as it is referring to those who were reduced in rate. The article reads, “AC and FTS members who have completed 18 years, but less than 20 years of service and are subsequently reduced in rate must be retained on active duty until they are eligible to transfer to the Fleet Reserve, unless they are discharged under other provisions of law.”