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Tom Goering, NCCM USN(Ret)

November 22, 2015

First off, thank you for visiting my web site. Navy CyberSpace is a hobby for me that dates back to my time stationed at Navy Recruiting Command. My wife calls Navy CyberSpace my “other woman” because of the time I spend working on it. When I started, I knew absolutely nothing about HTML, PHP, or any internet programming whatsoever. Matter of fact, I really knew very little about how the internet worked. I am still very much in the learning stage, so far it seems to be both a “science and art.”

I joined the Navy during my senior year of high school, Valentines Day of 1980 to be exact, and shipped to Recruit Training Command Orlando November 3rd of the same year. I kinda knew what I was getting myself into as I had completed four years of NJROTC at Crystal River High School in sunny Florida and had the privilege of attending mini-boot camp just a year before I was actually getting paid to be there. Boot camp was a blast for me – I remember one person in my company ask me if I was home sick and my reply to him was, “No, I am sick of home!” – one of the first quick and sarcastic responses I was able to generate during my time, there have been countless since… Anyway…

After boot camp and Electronics Technician A and C schools, I was on my way to the USS Forrestal, checked aboard and 8 days later we pulled out for the Med. (Feel free to read about some of my experiences in other posts). After the deployment we arrived back in Mayport only to pack everything up and head to Philly for a two and a half year overhaul, fun fun.

Navy Family

Tommy, Kevin and Me

It took just a couple of months of being stationed in Philadelphia to meet my wife; I’ll keep this short story short, we met and five weeks later we were married. We have three boys (men now…) – Tommy, Kevin and David. David is pursuing a degree in the culinary arts. Kevin recently finished his time in the Navy as a Nuke on the USS George Washington and graduated with a BS degree in physics and is now working on his Master’s in the same disapline. Tommy completed his six as a Nuke and served aboard the USS Nimitz. Tommy has since graduated from Penn State Law and is now an ambulance chaser a member of the court in Tennessee.

You may have noticed by now that my family has gravitated toward aircraft carriers. It all started with my father who served aboard the USS Enterprise – he made a couple of deployments on her, most notibally as part of Nuclear Task Force One‘s (USS Enterprise, USS Long Beach and USS Bainbridge) Around the World Cruise, steaming 31,000 miles in sixty-five Days during Operation Sea Orbit back in 1964.

My Wife and I

My Wife and I

During my 26+ years in the Navy, I have served as a shipboard communications technician, satellite ground terminal tech, Leading Petty Officer, Recruiter, Recruiter in Charge, Region Trainer, Zone Supervisor, Chief Recruiter, Career Recruiting Force Program Manager and as the Region West CR/CMC. I retired in December 2006 as a Navy Counselor Master Chief and proud member of the CPO Mess. If you have any questions about joining the Navy or suggestions about this web site feel free to contact me (email is in the nav bar – upper left of the page).

Now? In retirement from the Navy, living in Bartlett, TN, I am extending my hobby and spending as much time with my wife as she can tolerate.

A note to everyone: The advice and prognostications I deliver in the comments and via email are based on my experiences, and only take into account the information you provide. I do not have the benefit of the “whole person.” So, please see a Recruiter, no matter what, and have your documentation sent to MEPS for a definitive review. I am not answering for the Navy! The content of this site is an interpretation based on my experience of the current instructions, policies and regulations of entities within the Department of Defense.
Although rare, I have been known to be wrrree, wrea, wrong.

Over the years, Navy Cyberspace has been used as a reference in many publications including Stars and Stripes (news), Wired (humor), Christian Science Monitor (reference), and a couple Department of Defense articles (reference), just to name a few.

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50 Responses to “Tom Goering, NCCM USN(Ret)”

  1. brat:

    Followed your link on SA New York to here. Welcome to blogland! :)

    I am going to bookmark your site, and visit as often as I can.

    Thank you to ALL your family for their service in the military family. Thank YOU!


  2. NCCM(ret):

    Thank you Brat! Welcome to my site :)

  3. Marvin:

    NCCM, Thank you for commenting on my website! You are once again, my first! Well, you know what I mean…

    As you can see I have a very early work in progress on my website, but that so called “news report” got me riled up and felt I had to respond!

    Aside from responding to that, I am definitely in the R&D stages and being part time, have been for some time. Your bio reminds me of where I am now. Little knowledge about all of this, but a desire to blog away anyway! I see news reports here and there and this has prompted me to find an outlet to speak out when I feel I should! I also plan on presenting a perspective that is a little more edgy, when it comes to my take on things. It’s just more the “true” me, and maybe my style when I feel that’s what I need to do.

    Again, thanks for checking out my blog, and maybe sometime you can shoot me a few pointers on the technical side!

  4. European:

    Dear Sir,
    Your web site is truly an inspiration to all those who wish to join the American Navy.

    As an European, I found myself fascinated by the passion, knowledge and commitment you put in your articles — I also found them to be both educative and informative.

    I would therefore like to thank you for sharing your knowledge with the World Wide Web :)

    Your efforts are appreciated.

  5. Kim:

    Greetings! Thank you for the comment. Actually quite impressed you found it somehow seeing it’s only the start. I do plan on continuing to and writing in it after boot camp and through my journey in A school. Although I know Nuke School is challenging I want to make time for my blog. The reason is like I said, I googled a lot, and found answers here and there but never quite a full blog with process and procedures etc. Especially coming from a woman’s perspective. And if I did find information it would not be updated.

    Thank you again for your comment. AND of course I have come to this site many times, I have it book marked ;).

  6. Kim:

    Oh wow so both of your sons in the Nuclear Field! Amazing.

    Thank YOU for serving this Great Country. I can only hope to do the same. Also thank you for posting my blog on your website. It is much appreciated! I hope we keep in contact. I’m sure we will.

    I hope all is well with you and yours.

  7. NCCM(ret):

    I and my readers look forward to hearing about boot camp, A school and of course Nuke school and beyond!

  8. DEPJones:

    Thank you for the comment! A whole Navy family, that is something to be proud of!

    I come from an all Army family, so they were definitely proud that I qualified for Nuke and didn’t go grunt. I am looking forward to having this challenging rate and the opportunity to serve my country!

    I set up that blog so that other people can be a part of my experience along the way, I hope to fill it with many adventures.

    Thanks again for stopping by!


  9. Karen Woodbury:

    Congratulations on an impressive website!
    You are really providing a great service for Navy folks and those interested in the Navy.

    I’ve recently ventured into website building myself. What a steep learning curve it was, and is! I found your website because of a Google Alert on Hammelburg, where the chess tournament is being held.

    I was in Hammelburg in September; visited the town and went out to the former Stalag 13. I posted info and photos about it on my website.(I was stationed in Germany years ago as a JAG officer)

    Best wishes for you and your family for the new year, and great job on the site!


  10. CTNSA Sawicki:

    Master Chief:
    Hopefully you will respond to this. I found on your website that those who pass the DEP PQS and meat all requirements will be advanced to E2 at their active duty start date. Well, I’m in an argument with PSD right now because they seem to think that the advancement is to take place upon completion of bootcamp. I have been surfing the web to find the instruction but your site is the only place where I’ve found that information. Master Chief, do you know where I can get the official instruction on that so I can take it to PSD and get this fixed? I’d ask that you’d please respond via e-mail or this forum.

    Very Respectfully,
    CTNSA Sawicki

  11. mobias:

    Hello Sir!
    Thanks for stopping by my lonely blog! you are only the second to comment on anything, and you are right when you say, it is neat when people actually take the time to give you some feedback!

    I did reenlist, like you advised would be smart. And I will probably gain the next Tech.sgt.[E-6] stripe in my shop, as i’ve recently passed my 7-level requirements, and everyone else has either gotten hired as a pilot, or hurt their back and on their way out. So, yes, i knew i’d stay in, just wish i could change shops in a year or so. I’ll stick it out until then.

    I wished now, that i’d joined the Navy! i have grown to love all things Submarine and naval history, but i am not a young lad anymore. I am resigned to late night campaigns in the awesome Silent Hunter III, and IV. heh :)

    Thanks again and good luck! I will be stopping by to read more on your site as well!

  12. Embe:

    Hi Tom,

    Thanks for stopping by my blog. I’m curious as to how you found my post so quickly? We’re you doing a search on navy recruiting?

    If found your thoughts and experiences with parents and recruiting quite interesting. It’s nice to get a perspective from the recruiting officer. I appreciate that you took the time to share that insight.

  13. Michael:

    I have been a regular member in recieving the messages and will like to enlist in the UK military service.
    How to i pursue my ambition or dream.
    thanks for understanding and was very ineresting going through
    the background information .
    Best Regards

  14. NCCM(ret):

    @Michael – follow this link for information about enlisting into the UK armed forces –


    Hello sir,
    Thanks for all the information well simplified. I really want to say that, you’ve done well by putting all this stuff together. I really want to ask if it is possible for residents from outside the U.S.A (Ghana) to be able to be recruited into the U.S army. If yes, what are the prcedures involved and if no why? thank you.

  16. NCCM(ret):


    Thank you for your kind comments and welcome to my web site!

    To answer your question you need to be a United States citizen, permanent resident alien, or U.S. non-citizen national and possess a Social Security Card. Contact your local US Embassy for details on gaining one of the status’ I have listed. Good luck!

  17. Helena:

    I have an acquaintance who accepted command of NRD New England. I recently pulled up the website to see what it looks like. The NRD New England website has not been updated to reflect him as Commanding Officer. It still shows him as Executive Officer. Perhaps changes could be made to reflect this?

  18. NCCM(ret):


    Thank you for the comment!

    You may want to give him a call and poke him to update the info, his command is responsible for keeping their site up to date. :)


  19. Paul:

    Hello, Chief.

    It’s funny how people wander onto each other’s blogs. Isn’t serendipity a wonderful thing? While a lifelong civilian, I’ve got a few close kin with military history. My brother was on the Oriskany in the mid to late sixties, I have two boys in the USA (I’m sure you don’t mind), and my wife’s father was a junior officer aviator in WWII. By the way, we were married 35 days after we first set eyes on each other – is that five weeks?

  20. Wayne Tajiri:

    Aloha Master Chief!
    Stumbled upon your website while checking out some Kef stuff. I was also stationed @ NSGT F-15, a plank owner. At the time I was an ET3 coming out of Diego, I was the initial Supply PO and outfitter of the site. ETC Shuetz was my chief, & Mr Heinz Stroebel was the civ engineer. It was a great tour, before returning to Diego for a 2nd tour. Will read more of you site later……till then….Mahalo and Aloha…

  21. celeste:

    I found your web site very informative & a perfect way to End my 4th of July reading about A service man along w/his line of family members having been in the service Thanks for sending the link,& protecting Our Country’s Shores!
    Your Wife’s School Friend,Celeste

  22. Dave Wamsley:

    Ahoy, Master Chief,
    Great website. I’m like your dad, I was on the USS Long Beach in ’64 for that historic cruise. What a trip. I still have maps, cruise books and pics from those days. I also have stories. I left Long Beach in ’65 to return to school but remained a reservist. I returned to active duty in 1973 and stayed until 1991. When you enlisted I was the PAO for NDR San Antonio. I have one son who did six and my youngest is going to RTC in a month or so. It’s a family thing, ya know.

    Fair Winds.

  23. NCCM(ret):


    Thanks for the thumbs up on the site.

    I wonder what the percentage of Sailors from Operation Sea Orbit had children join the Navy – I bet its higher than average :)

  24. Richard Don Simms:

    Sir, My Dad,Omer Dee Simms, was killed in action aboard the USS FRANKLIN on March 19,1945. I was seven years old.Mom was strong and she survived the loss of her partner. Proud of my Dad. RDS

  25. Mark Schumacher:

    Hello Chief. I am seeking a Direct Commission in the Army Reserve. I hold a Masters in education and am a high school teacher. I have been told by my recruiter that due to a DWAI (traffic infraction in NY State) fifteen years ago I am ineligible/unwaiverable. According to my research, a single “misconduct” does not even warrant a waiver. What is your opinion? My best friend is a Navy intelligence Commander and has told me that the Army is not correct. Thank you

  26. NCCM(ret):


    A Driving While Intoxicated (a behind the wheel alcohol offense) will always require a waiver, regardless of how long ago it was. The Army Reserve may currently have a moratorium on waiving any past indiscretions, but normally your single issue would be able to receive waiver consideration.

  27. LT/LDO/6180:

    Good to see your staying connected. I’m posting this right now as a helo lands on top of my head conducting a vertical replenishment, somewhere in the Northern Arabian Sea. As a dude who you helped sucker into the ET rating 20 years ago out of Panama City, Florida…I have to say thanks. If it wasn’t for you, I wouldn’t have enjoyed my 6 years as an Electronics Technician Chief Petty Officer (15.5 enlisted) and the opportunity to serve as a Commissioned Officer in our great Navy. I’m short on sea duty. Pushing 10 years consecutive. On my way to an OIC tour at NAS Jacksonville. Keep up the great work.

  28. Larry Runser:

    Hello Tom
    I just started following you, I try to keep up with the new Navy through Twitter and Face book, I find it interesting as you said you enlisted in Feb 1980, I retired in Jan 1980,It is a much different Navy than we had in the 60’s/70’s, thanks to shipmates like you, us old timers can keep up with our today’s Navy.
    Larry Runser
    USN Ret.

  29. NCCM(Ret):


    Sorry for the delay in answering. I hope all is well and that you are now enjoying a little bit of well deserved shore duty!

  30. NCCM(Ret):


    They say, “Once a Marine, always a Marine” – I don’t think the Marines have that sentiment cornered by any stretch of the imagination. Once a Sailor, always a Sailor is just as true.

    Thank you, Shipmate, for your service.

  31. Mike:

    Master Chief Goering,

    We thank for your service, passion, spirit of generosity, and guidance! My son graduated college as a science major. He is in the process of enlisting for the nuke program. He did very well with the ASVAB. True to his character, he provided full disclosure of trying marijuana a few times as a college freshman. He is now waiting review of a waiver. Too much information on the internet; so many offer expert opinions. My question, with approval of a waiver and completing A schools with exceptional performance – is assignment of a sailor (first deployment, international, subs, STA-21 program) adversely affected as a result of the waiver? Thank you again for your service for our country and guidance to so many young adults.

  32. NCCM(Ret):


    If he requires an enlistment waiver for the drug use, then he would be disqualified from overseas assignment for his first duty station – if he requires just the program waiver, he may be eligible, but as a Nuke, there is only the USS George Washington that is forward deployed – it is in Japan, so either way – that would be the only duty station he would be excluded from; it would have no bearing on him being able to apply for STA-21 (having never sat a board of this type, I assume the pre-service drug use may weigh in the decision of approval if being compared to equally qualified applicants that have no drug use), and, of course, he would be able to volunteer for submarine duty with an approved program waiver for Nuke.

  33. Shiloh:

    Master Chief,

    Hello i have a question. I was wondering what the Navy’s policy on tattoo’s on the wrist? It seems i could join the navy reserves here in Oregon maybe. As i am a good candidate to join it’s just i am worried about the tattoo’s is all. The recruiter i talked to said if i could cover it up with my hand i would be alright. The thing is what the tattoo is, they are draft horse felt locks. As can cover one wrist with my hand and its covered up but when i try to cover up the other one there is maybe 1/2″ that sticks out. I was wondering if that will hinder my chances of being able to join. As they are not anything gang related or anything like that.I would like nothing more then to be able to join. Thank you for your time and service.

  34. NCCM(Ret):


    I have no idea what a draft horse felt lock is, but your recruiter is correct. The fact that only a 1/2 inch sticks out shouldn’t be a problem, but if it is, I would think a waiver would be approved.

  35. Army Veteran:

    Master Chief,

    I can’t thank you enough for this site and for the information you provided for me privately. I think my son is on a better path and that even with the juvenile diversion he will be able to find a rating that works. He spoke with his recruiter today who sent him to a special ops Chief for advice. That person is going to get him the list of ratings that are not eliminated because of the diversion. I understand it isn’t a long list and I wish we didn’t have to wait so long to get it.

    He understands your most important advice……. Believe that you will be doing your rating for your entire first enlistment……….

    He believes and it has made all the difference. He sounds much more realistic in his expectations and I am now much more confident that he will create a positive outcome for himself. Thank you so very much.

    His mom…………

  36. NCCM(Ret):

    Army Veteran,

    Due to the charge, the ratings he would not be eligible for are these; AC, AIRC, AIRR, EOD, GM, HM, HMDA, MA, ND, SB, SO, UCT, CTI, CTM, CTN, CTR, CTT, AECF, IS, OS, IT, and STG.

    Here is a complete list of ratings.

    Now, I have no idea which of those ratings he would qualify for will be available, but he can get some idea of the possibilities.

  37. Beverly:

    Really enjoy your website. I am Navy Vet myself (’81 – ’91) and was a RM2. I sent you a message via FB asking a question .. trying to help a young man join.


  38. NCCM(Ret):


    Got it, and I responded :)

  39. Tish [Last name redacted for privacy]:

    I am writing on behalf of my son Courtney [Last name redacted for privacy] who scored 93% on the ASVAB a few months ago. He only issue was weight. He has lost 25 pounds since then. We were wondering if DEP would be a good choice for him to keep him focused on his goal of enlistment?

  40. NCCM(Ret):


    If your son is within the enlistment weight/body fat standard and he is otherwise qualified, then he can enlist into the DEP with a date and rating/program to ship to boot-camp. If he is not yet in standards, he can communicate with the local recruiters his intentions of joining, and I am sure they will be able to supply him with additional guidance he can use to prepare himself for the Navy (study materials — things to know before one gets to boot-camp).

  41. Cpl Casillas:

    Would anyone know when the “Q4 FY-2015 Navy Program and Rating Opportunities” becomes available by chance?

  42. NCCM(Ret):

    CPL Casillas,

    If it has been released, it has not yet been made public. That said, I think based on the reduction of ratings and programs eligible for an Enlistment bonus (EB), and the with current suspension of the Student Loan Repayment Program that the ratings and programs that would be on the 4th Qtr list be waht is on the current incentivised with the EB list.

  43. Cpl Casillas:

    Thanks for the info. Master Chief. I was a prior CTR2 when I got out honorably in July 2011. In 2013 I joined up in the Marine Corps. I’m actually trying to go back and the ECM for my old rate told me that the Navy needs a 2nd class on subs with Morse Code. I just need to make sergeant before October of next year. I will definitely make that rank by the end of this year though, and I already went to Manual Morse and completed it back in 2009. I was wondering, if I took the DLPT in Russian if that also might better my chances as far as coming back into the ‘World’s Finest’ Navy? Also, I heard that trying to re-enter as a prior service member that I would be taking someone else’s re-enlistment boat space? Is that true? I also have to find a recruiter here in North Carolina who would work with me on that one which I’m pretty sure that I pegged a few. Also, with all that I’ve said, would there be a better way to increase my chance of an inter-service transfer without a break in service? Any bit of information would help. Thanks in advance Master Chief. This is a awesome site to keep up on the “latest and greatest.”

  44. NCCM(Ret):

    Cpl Casillas,

    You have many hurdles to jump when trying to complete an service transfer — first being permission to do so. The Marine Corps, in your case, would have to complete a DD form 368 — it is a conditional release. Once that is signed by the person that has that authority, then you would start your enlistment processing for the Navy — trouble is, those seats are very limited, but to even start to look, that conditional release form has to be signed.

  45. Cpl Casillas:

    It looks like it’s a good chance that could go through because my Job is over manned over 70%, and my bosses are willing to help me out to route it through the proper chain. May I ask why those seats are limited Master Chief? I mean to say, why is it that might make a person more or less eligible than another person? Also, when the DD Form 368 gets signed, could you explain where I would go from there, and the process thereafter?

  46. NCCM(Ret):

    Cpl Casillas,

    Prior service seats are always limited. It works like this; first their has to be a billet open in recruiting command’s system (kind of the same as a boot-camp seat for non-prior service, but a lot less of them), then to fill those seats, the Veteran must meet a bunch of other criteria (go to the main page of my blog, I have just recently wrote an article for both NAVETs and OSVETs — you can get a basic idea of the minimum qualifications). If coming back in your original rating, then that ratings must be undermanned; if not, then you would have to come in via PRISE III and get a new rating that is undermanned — it’s a process.

    Now, you cannot start any of that stuff to see if you can go Navy until you are given a conditional release from your current service; once you have that, you take it to your local Navy recruiter — then they can tell you if they can process you at all (officially) — I do recommend that you go see a local recruiter now just to see if you would be wasting your time pursuing the conditional release — prior service seats get filled up quick.

  47. Justin [Last name redated for privacy]:

    Hi Doc,

    first off, i have ADHD, and I am well aware of how the navy looks at those with ADHD. I also know how slim my chances are of getting a waiver.
    Okay so pretty much, i was diagnosed at 5 years old and have been on Adderal till I was 13 when I was taken off my meds. I have since graduated high school without any medicated help and am now 19 years old.
    I have sent up some school counselor follow up documents from 2nd grade to 8th grade about my ADHD, with a full psychiatric evaluation from the school of when I was taken off my meds and how it effected me, The papers and written statement that my recruiters told me to write and of course you an evaluation from a psychiatrist stating that I am no longer affected by my ADHD etc.
    my questions and concerns are: I was not able to supply the initial evaluation of my ADHD from when I was 5, but I feel like the school follow ups and evaluation from when I was taken off are sufficient. Would I be correct in believing so…..? I’ve been waiting for about a month now and was wondering on what you think my chances are? Anything else I should do maybe? Is it good that it’s taking this long? Or did they just trash my waiver because there wasn’t enough sufficient data. Any insight would be very appreciated. This wait is killing me.

  48. NCCM(Ret):


    MEPS responds within 5 days from when the documents are submitted — a month is too long. MEPS does not trash anything — they will either tell your recruiter more documents are required, pass you, or fail you; one of those three will happen when documents are submitted to the MEPS.

    The school documents are important, but you need to get your actual medical records — not a letter from the doctor, but the actual records. If you cannot get those records, then you need a letter from the doctor or institution that explains why the records no longer exist.

    For ADHD, if you were diagnosed prior to age 18, have not been on medications for more than 2 years after your 14th birthday, have no co-morbid disorders, have not required an IEP or accommodations and had no decline in function while off the meds, you will not be DQ.

    I am not NavyDoc. I am not a doctor. NavyDoc answers questions on this page.

  49. Gizel [Last name redated for privacy]:

    I’m writing on behalf of my nephew he want to enlist to the Navy full-time as a Hull tech but he did had a one time misconduct stolen property inside the store less than 50.00dollars when he was 16 year old. It was not been recorded in the police. Since that event he didn’t run in any mischievous acts and graduated high school and work full time.
    My question is can he join in the Navy and does he need a waiver letter? Concern aunt and want the best for my nephew.
    Thank you

  50. NCCM(Ret):


    Yes, he will require a Conduct Waiver for the theft. Whether or not the HT rating will be available or not will depend on if he is otherwise qualified for it and that there are openings for it — it does not come open that often — I recommend that he broaden his desires beyond a single rating.

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