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Requirements for NAVET Reenlistment

NAVET Reenlisting Rules

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Published: July 15, 2015
Updated: February 25, 2018

First, what is a NAVET? According to OPNAVINST 1100.4C, “NAVETs are applicants whose last tour of active duty or active duty for training was in the United States Navy or Navy Reserve, have been discharged or released more than 24 hours, and who completed a minimum of 12 consecutive weeks of active duty or active duty for training (to include boot-camp graduation).” Additionally, applicants applying for enlistment in the Active Component who are in the New Accession Training (NAT) Program are also considered NAVETS even though they may have completed less than 12 consecutive weeks active duty or active duty for training.

If you are on the Temporary Disability Retirement List (TDRL) attempting to return, refer to this TDRL page — the process is different.

The requirements and procedures

Note: much of the information is taken directly from COMNAVCRUITCOMINST 1130.8K, VOLUME IV, Section 8 for a majority of this post. Although it should answer many of the questions, at least it does for a majority of the questions I receive, it does not cover everything, so please be sure to contact your local recruiter for how your case should be specifically handled.

NAVETS must meet the same basic eligibility requirements of someone trying to enlist for the first time, and that does include using the accession medical standards and NOT the retention medical standards — they are different! The accession standard is more strict. Your separation physical can be used by the Military Entrance Processing Station as long as the physical is not more than ONE year old.

NAVETs must also meet dependency requirements.

Prior service must be verified with the original or certified copy of the DD Form 214. If an appropriate DD Form 214 is not available, or evidence of alteration exists, prior service shall be verified through the Reenlistment Eligibility Data Display (REDD) Web Application.

NAVETs must meet RE-Code requirements to be enlistment eligible.

NAVETs shall only be enlisted in under-manned rates and ratings. All entry requests, including conversions, must be authorized by the applicable Enlisted Community Manager (ECM), VIA NAVCRUITCOM (N32), due to rating manning issues.

The applicant is not to a call directly to the ECM! The bold emphasis is mine.

Read the next part very carefully concerning broken service and how you may be affected by high year tenure.

NAVETs must be able to complete 20 years of service by age 60. No waivers will be considered.

NAVETs discharged in paygrade E3 or below must have one year or less of prior service and no more than six years broken service.

NAVETs with more than one year of prior service must have been discharged in paygrade E4 or higher and have no more than five years broken service.

NAVETs discharged in paygrades E4 through E6 cannot have more than five years broken service without ECM waiver approval. Waiver requests should document significant Reserve service or civilian equivalent certification.

NAVETs accessed in paygrade E4 must have no more than six years of prior service to enlist. NAVETs accessing in paygrade E5 must have no more than 12 years of prior service and those accessing in paygrade E6 must have no more than 16 years of prior service.

If frocked at the time of discharge NAVETs can request reenlistment in the frocked paygrade only if reenlisting within six months of discharge and in the previously held rating. ECM and PERS-811 approval, via NAVCRUTCOM (N32), is required. NAVETs converting to a new rating via PRISE III are ineligible for reenlistment in a prior frocked paygrade.

For those with civilian experience that followed their time in the Navy:

NAVETs with civilian experience convertible to a Navy rating may be approved for a higher paygrade from the one previously held. For example, an E4 NAVET who served as a police officer for three years may be eligible for the MA rating under the Prior Service Reenlistment Eligibility (PRISE) III Program as a MA2. All such requests require Enlisted Community Manager (ECM) approval via NAVCRUITCOM (N32). Only NAVCRUITCOM (N32) is authorized to contact the ECM for such approval. NAVCRUITDISTs will submit requests to NAVCRUITCOM (N32) via the respective NAVCRUITREG Commander. The maximum paygrade for accession via PRISE III is E3. PRISE III NAVETs will be promoted to the contracted and approved paygrade upon successful completion of the contracted Class “A” School, and if required, Class “C” School.

Now, just meeting the above requirements does not mean that you are good-to-go. There has to be billets (openings), and I don’t mean openings that your ECM may see; Navy recruiting command must also have a shipping seat available specifically set aside for NAVETs — there isn’t normally a lot of those. If your stars align, continually follow-up with your recruiter as the process moves along, and stay calm — keep in mind that the process can be cumbersome and time consuming — your patience will be tested.

I hope this does answer a lot of questions, if not, feel free to post a comment! Good luck!



140 Responses to “NAVET Reenlisting Rules”


  1. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Sean,

    I would think your eligible to affiliate with the Reserve again (HYT doesn’t seem to be an issue based on how you described it), but I have no idea what ratings are available. You would need to track down a recruiter for that.

  2. Chris says:

    I served 7 years as a BM2 and I also have a RE-R1 reentry code. I am currently a sophomore getting my Bachelors in Intelligence Studies. I have that wanting to re-enlist bug back into the Navy. Is it possible to change my rating to one of the Information Warfare ratings(IS/CT/IT) or is it best to pursue another branch? I never really liked my rating at all and did not want to go through the fleet ride program/rating conversion process while I was on active duty. The Army is willing to put me into their Intel MOS, but I think the Navy would be best.

  3. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Chris,

    I have no idea what ratings may be available — it depends on their current manpower, and I don’t have access to C-Way. I highly recommend that you contact a recruiter because that will be the only way to find out.

  4. Charles says:

    Hello, 2 years ago I went under the navet/osvet program after completing 2 years of selres, I was able to keep my rank of E4. What was not explained to me through the entire process was what year group I fall under and if my pay should match the time I’ve been associated with the navy. Should I still go under the same hyt as someone that was active? Noone at my command seems to have a clue since seeing a navet is rare. Thanks, VR MA3.

  5. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Charles,

    Calculating your Active Duty Start Date (ADSD) for NAVETs, OSVETs and applicants with prior service such as SAMs, National Guardsmen, and other service Reserve enlistments, the ADSD is computed by subtracting from the current enlistment date all prior periods of active duty/Initial Active Duty for Training (IADT), plus adding, to that figure, periods of lost time. It’s that date that should be used for HYT purposes. For more information, use MILPERSMAN 1000-030.

    When calculating your Pay Entry Base Date (PEBD), the date that determines the “years of service” for your basic military pay, because you were a SELRES, should not match your ADSD. It is quite possible that you have less than four years of active duty time while getting paid for over 6 years of credited time. Use MILPERSMAN 7220-020 and DoD FMR volume 7A for guidance.

  6. Channing says:

    Hi. You have answered a question for me before and my package has made it to CNRC. My question or questions are rather, does it Moran that its been approved thus far as my recruiter said this is ten final stop and would you know how long before it will come back if it hit their desk on Monday? I am just figuring what type of timeline I am looking at as well as if I should be getting my hopes up. My recruiter said its good that its at CNRC. Thank you.

  7. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Channing,

    If your package has to go to the ECMs, it would take up to a month; and sometimes even longer depending on how fast the particular ECM(s) gets to it.

  8. Channing says:

    Thank you for your quick response. I received my approval on Thursday. Thank you for this board and all your help. I will be at MEPS on Friday to complete my paperwork.

  9. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Channing,

    Congratulations!

    I am glad to have been able to provide some insight that may have helped you on your quest.

  10. Nona says:

    I have 6 years since I left the Navy due to PTS. I still work avionics on military aircraft at Boeing. I have 11 years and 10 mo of service. I have a good RE code, what are the possibilities of a time in service waiver with the new hyt?

  11. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Nona,

    I have not seen any updated guidance for recruiting command as of yet. Theoretically, as long as the ECM approves you to return at least as an E-5, you should be allowed. If the rating remains fully manned, however, that prospect is a slim one.

  12. Albert says:

    Hello,
    New HYT are 10yrs for E4 now. E5 is 16yrs. E6 is 22yrs. Which means E4 with 6 yrs prior active service will be approved to reenlist as prior service NAVET/OSVET program. You will keep previous rating but reenlist as E3. broken service with over six years will get approved. everything needs a waiver from ECM dependent on needs of the Navy.

  13. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Albert,

    Have you seen the operation notice yet that updates the cruitman? I assume you are a recruiter?

  14. Briana says:

    Hello,

    I am currently trying to join active navy as an OSVET. My recruiter informed me that my longest waiver ( I have to get two misconduct waivers and a dependent waiver since my husband is active duty Navy.) will be the ECM waiver. How long do you think it will take to get an answer and where can I find a list of undermanned jobs to maybe increase my chances of getting my ECM waiver approved?

  15. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Briana,

    The active duty Navy no longer produces a Career Reenlistment Objectives (CREO) group listing that showed the manning levels at the various pay grades for each of the enlisted Navy’s jobs. Now, the Navy uses a Career Waypoints system (C-Way) and publishes a CNAV list periodically that can provide insight; but it is not rank specific. So, I can’t give you a list of jobs you can use from the resources I have access to.

    ECM waivers can take anywhere from a couple of days to a month to get back. Depends on a lot of factors — sounds like your recruiter may have already discussed that part with you which raised the concern.

  16. Briana says:

    Okay thank you for getting back to me.

  17. Michael says:

    I was an MM2 when I got out a year ago will I be able to join as an E-5 again. I have 4 years prior service.

  18. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Michael,

    Should be no problem; if you cannot return as an MM, you must pick a rating that will except you (go see a recruiter!).

  19. Nick says:

    Hello,

    So about 3 years ago I joined the navy as an E1. During bootcamp I was sent home due to fraudulent enlistment(didnt tell my recruiter about a previous ADHD medication.) I had to go to medical one day and they found out about it due to me being a military kid and having tricare most of my life. I have not been on the medicine for nearly 8 years now. My Reenlistment code was a RE-8. What are my chances of getting an ECM waiver?

  20. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Nick,

    A an RE code waiver is possible for those with an RE-8 (you don’t need an ECM waiver because you were not rated), but usually not entertained for those with a fraudulent enlistment reason. You would have to find a recruiter willing to work with you.

  21. Chris says:

    Hello, I am 39 and strongly considering returning to military service. I was active duty for 4 years as a GM2 but have been separated since 2002. I have a 4 year college degree and RE1 separation code. What are the chances of me getting back on active duty or in the reserves?

  22. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Chris,

    I have asked the question to a few folks that would know the current answer; once I have the response, I will post it here.

  23. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Chris,

    I have received a couple of answers and advice; first, explore Officer programs with an officer recruiter — active duty has only a 7 percent selection rate for Intel, but Reserve Intel Officer might be a good fit. Depends on your degree, GPA, etc, but with your prior service it should help, too. (personal note, my oldest son was a NAVET who is now an active duty Intel Officer)

    If the officer programs don’t work out, contact an enlisted recruiter and inquire about reenlisting in the Navy or affiliating with the Reserve. For active duty, unless you have civilian work experience that may qualify you for a higher paygrade, you may lose two paygrades because of the extensive time you have been out (if they will only accept you as an E-3, then you may not be eligible due to high year tenure).

    Hope this helps!

  24. Chris says:

    I appreciate the response and thanks for your help. I will contact a recruiter Monday and see if I can get the ball rolling.

  25. Josh says:

    Hello I am 28 years old with 10 years of service on active duty in the Navy as a GSM2. I just recently got out less than 6 months ago and realized I made a mistake. I have a Re-R1 separation Code and wondering if it would be possible for me to rejoin the Navy on Active duty. I already talked to one prior service recruiter and he told me its no way I can join active duty. Should take his word for it or should I talk to another Recruiter?

  26. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Josh,

    I recommend that you find a regular active duty recruiter. There has not been a lot of NAVETs able to return, but there have been some. Your recruiter’s NRD should attempt to make contact with the ECM to see if he has room to bring you back. The Navy is in the process of increasing their end-strength, so I would hope seats are starting to show. Worst case, the Reserve may be your only option, but there also may be opportunities in changing your rating — point is, someone should be getting a definitive answer (assuming your prior service recruiter did not — he very well might have) before telling you “no way”.

  27. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Josh,

    To add, I had a friend discuss your case with the ECM — he is interested in seeing your package. Make sure you tell your active duty recruiter that. Your recruiter needs to process you and have his NRD get your kit to the waiver shop for rate and pay grade determination.

  28. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Josh,

    He was only told the scenario, of course, he has no idea who you are specifically.

  29. Josh says:

    Okay will do that. Thank you for all your help.

  30. Josh says:

    NCCM,

    Sorry for asking you all these questions when you have already helped me so much. So I explained to the recruiter everything you told me to do, but now he is asking me if I have the ECMs name or at least a number he can use to contact them before he routes my package to his NRD. Would you happen to know where I can look up this information so that I can give it to him?

    V/R
    Josh

  31. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Josh,

    I sent you an email.

  32. Pete [Last name redacted for privacy] says:

    Hey y’all,
    I was in active duty Navy for 5.5 years, got out as an MA2 and looking to get back in after 3.5 years out. My recruiter told me the only way to go about it is to join the Reserves and then request a transfer from there. Is that correct? I haven’t found anything about that specifically anywhere else. Any advice you can give would be gr ally appreciated. Thank you!

  33. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Pete,

    Going to the Reserve is not the only way — if you want to only pursue active duty, your recruiter should be submitting a package to CNRC for a pay grade determination and ECM consideration.

  34. Courtney says:

    Hi,

    I got all the Navy in 2014 honorably. And I want to go back in is it possible what are the steps I need to take? I have already spoken To someone about it they informed me that I would have to go through Boot Camp again and take my ASV a B again is that true?

  35. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Courtney,

    How long were you in the Navy? What was your rating? What was your paygrade? What was your RE-Code?

  36. Brandon says:

    Hello,

    I am a Navy veteran with 9 years of service (8 years and 364 days to be exact!) as an E-6, Aegis Fire Controlman. I separated in November 2015 with an RE-R1 reenlistment code. I am interested in coming back in the Navy, active duty or in the reserves. I have been in contact with recruiters often over the last 3 years and have gotten nowhere. Most active duty recruiters have told me that they don’t deal with prior service enlistments and cannot help me. The only person that has attempted to help me so far was a reserve recruiter who told me that because I got out with a VA disability rating of 40%. He didn’t submit any paperwork on my behalf nor advised of any waiver being possible. Is there any way for me to reenlist or does being rated with a VA disability of greater than 30% disqualify me? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

  37. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Brandon,

    Prior service applicants who are subsequently found physically qualified by MEPS and are authorized to enlist must waive their disability compensation, regardless of source, and, if enlisted, the disability compensation waiver must be effective on the date of the member’s enlistment.

    The bigger question is, what is your disability rating for? What is the medical issue? You have been out for more than six months, so that means you must meet the accession standard just like a non-prior service applicant would. The accession standard is much more strict than the retention standard.

  38. Matthew says:

    I was wondering if I can be lead in the right direction here. I was honorably discharged in 2014 at HYT as an E-4. I’m looking to go back in but currently I’m collecting VA disability at 50%. I understand that it’s not impossible but hard to go back in because of my VA rating. However, I was told by a reserve recruiter (although I’m looking to go active) that it’s completely impossible to go active again. What I’ve read here, is confirmation of what I already know. Waiving my disability effective the date of enlistment. But the big question is what did the va rate me on like disability wise. After reading the Navy Accession Standards, none of my va rated disabilities are listed and none of them are chronic. My question is how do I get a recruiter to actually work with me? Because I can tell them all day what I know and found out but for some reason they keep telling me different. Also would it be possible to come back but as an E-5? I did 8 years before being discharged. I don’t know if that experience would help my chances.

  39. William says:

    Hello NCCM,
    I served 5 years active 3 inactive as a HM3 8404 (FMF Corpsman), I received an Honorable discharge RE-1 code. I’ve been out for 15 years,and I am 44 years of age. I would love to come back as a Corpsman, but thinking my age is going to be the main thing stopping me, or can this be wavered?
    Thanks,
    William

  40. NCCM(Ret) says:

    William,

    You must be able to complete 20 years of service before your turn 60 — there is no waiver authorized.

  41. Angelo says:

    Hello NCCM,
    I served as a Corpsman for 7 years and got out as a HM3 on July 2012 with a honorable discharge. I have a RE-1 separation code with 30% VA disability rating. I went to college right I got out of the Navy and I have completed a Bachelors in Philosophy in 2017. I really missed being a sailor and would like to come back to active duty as a corpsman. Would I be eligible to come back into the Navy as an active duty and hopefully as a corpsman? Thank you very much.

    Respectfully,
    Angelo

  42. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Angelo,

    You had been on active duty a year too long. When reenlisting as a NAVET, you must be able to complete at least four years in the paygrade you are reenlisting at — E4 HYT is 10 years. I do recommend you contact an officer recruiter to see if there is a designator you may be competitive for.

  43. Ryan M says:

    Hello NCCM,
    I was wondering if I would be eligible for reenlisting as a NAVET? I was an E3, served for 4 years active duty. Would I be eligible? And if I was, would I have to keep the same rate? Loved being in the navy but, my rate is overmanned, and I didn’t like my rate.

  44. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Ryan M.,

    NAVETs discharged in paygrade E3 or below must have one year or less of prior service and no more than six years broken service.

  45. Bryan says:

    I recently submitted the paperwork to come back as a NAVET. I have a RE-R1 code I have not been able to get a straight answer on how long it takes to get the ok to go-to MEPS and finish the process.

  46. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Bryan,

    That depends on a few things, but what takes the most time, and recruiting has no influence over this, is how many ECMs your package may have to go to before you gain an approval.

  47. Bryan says:

    NCCM,

    What determines how many ECMs have to view it? Just out of curiosity.

  48. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Bryan,

    Ideally, it is just one. Hopefully, the first one that reviews your package accepts you. They weigh a number of factors to include your year group and how you would fit into their force structure. If they cannot justify the gain, then they would move it to your next choice/qualified rating, and so on.

  49. Bryan says:

    Ok, thank you.

  50. Izzy says:

    Hello,
    I do not know if I am at the right place but I will give it a try.
    I am manner of the Air national guard. I have been in for 5 years and I have a year left. I am about to finish my BBA in management and I want to become an officer. I am 40 years old and I have always wanted to be a naval officer. What are my chances to join the reserves as an officer and what do you recommend me I should do?
    Thank you in advance.

  51. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Izzy,

    No idea what your chances are; some will depend on the Navy officer designator you are applying to. I recommend you discuss it with a local officer recruiter so he/she can go over all you bring to the table and determine what might be your best fit.

  52. Andrei says:

    Hello,
    I have a RE-R1 re entry code on my dd214 with 4 years of active duty service completed. Separated at the rank of E-5 and would like to know my chances of ever being processed as a NAVET or my eligibility. Some days I just wondering why the heck I got out last year in the first place.
    Thank you

    Andrei

  53. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Andrei,

    Reenlistment is possible. Your chances will depend greatly of your rating — if your rating cannot take you back due to their manning numbers, then you would have to qualify for another rating that has the room. I highly recommend that you seek out your local recruiter.

  54. Raven says:

    I am prior service army guard/reserve I got out last year I have a EMC waiver sent up is there any kinda time frame for those I have a RE code 1 with honorable I’m a E4

  55. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Raven,

    It can sometimes take a month or more depending on how many ECMs it has to go to if or before you gain an approval. If the first one accepts you, then maybe a week.

  56. Raven says:

    If I’m not approved by the first one does that mean there are others that have to look at it also and can they approve me if the first one doesn’t and I was told it has to go to NRC I think that’s what my recruiter said I could be wrong I forget the Acronyms I hear so many when I’m in the office

  57. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Raven,

    It goes to CNRC because they will be the liaison with the ECMs. What the ECMs do is ensure you are eligible for their ratings(s), and then determine whether they have the manning level at your paygrade where they can offer you a spot. If the first one can’t take you, it will move to the next. Did you provide a list of ratings you were interested in?

  58. Raven says:

    No I didn’t I’m just trying to get in where I fit in I’m getting my A+ and Network + Certs so I’m going to request a IT related rate once I get my certs

  59. Raven says:

    Is there someone my recruiter can contact for a update on the status of my EMC waiver?

  60. Raven says:

    Can I have my recruiter contact Navy Detail ,for the rate you want or just a detail to see if they having openings or something? Could that help push it along?

  61. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Raven,

    Your recruiter cannot push it, but can check the status via the CNRC waiver portal.

  62. Raven says:

    Are there Seabee rates you can get without a valid drivers license , like Steel Worker,BU

  63. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Raven,

    Currently, only the Equipment Operator, Master at Arms, and Religious Program Specialist ratings require a driver’s license per COMNAVCRUITCOMINST 1130.8K (CH 3), pg. 505, dated September 5, 2019.

  64. brent says:

    Hello there!

    I have an interesting situation that I cannot find the answer to. I have poured through COMNAVCRUITCOMINST 1130 for answers but coming up with a loophole.

    I have 4yr 6mo in the Navy, separated RE1 honorable discharge as an E4. I then served in the Army for 1yr 2mo and have an RE3, separated as an E2. I had to take a reduction in paygrade in order to join the Army and then I got injured and was discharged with a General Under Honorable Conditions.

    I want to rejoin the Navy. According to the instruction, I would be considered an OSVET because my last service was Not in the Navy. (I am already working with recruiters and they are very supportive and awesome to work with. Now we’re pouring through the instructions and trying to figure out how to get me back in the Navy.)

    According to the Section 10 for OSVETS: (Pasted below from the instruction)

    c. OSVETs discharged in paygrades E1 through E3 cannot have more than
    five years broken service; those discharged in paygrades E4 through E6 cannot
    have more than six years broken service.

    d. OSVETs discharged in paygrades E1 through E4 must have six or fewer
    years of prior service. Those discharged in paygrade E5 must have 10 or
    fewer years of prior service and OSVETs discharge in paygrade E6 must have 14
    or fewer years of prior service. High year tenure (HYT) limits apply to
    OSVETs as follows:
    (1) Use only total active Navy service, if any, to compute HYT
    limits for E-4 and below.

    I have 9 years of broken service, I got out of the Army at 25 and I’m 34 now.

    My question is this: Can I still go back in with more than 6 years break in service? I see on many other forums that people with even longer breaks in service have reentered. Am I missing something somewhere else in the instruction? Is this something the ECM will waive even though its not stated as something that can be waived? Any insight is greatly appreciated!

  65. NCCM(Ret) says:

    Brent,

    Due to the break in service, reenlisting in the Navy won’t be possible.

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