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Concurrent VA Disability-Military Retired Pay

Budget Proposal Would Fix Concurrent Receipt


This year looks more promising; 2011 Chapter 61 concurrent receipt discussion

Reading further in the defense section of the 2010 budget outline it looks as if the issues with concurrent receipt of retired military pay and VA disability pay will finally be fixed!

The Budget also contains a proposal to expand concurrent receipt of military retired pay and Veterans Disability Compensation to all retirees receiving disability retired pay. Under current law, the prohibition on concurrent receipt means that these benefits offset each other so that disabled military retirees cannot receive full DOD retirement and Veterans disability payments. When the offset is removed, disabled military retirees would receive additional monthly compensation.

Currently to be eligible for concurrent receipt you must be evaluated at 50% disabled by the VA.
Update: 6/25/2009 1 more Senator added his name to the list of Co-Sponsors of this bill bringing the number to 40!
Update: 6/24/2009 House Approved HR 2990 by a vote of 404 to 0 (See Comments).
Update: 6/17/2009 1 more Senator added his name to the list of Co-Sponsors of this bill bringing the number to 39!
Update: 6/3/2009 2 more Senators added their names to the list of Co-Sponsors of this bill bringing the number to 38!
Update: 5/19/2009 2 more Senators added their names to the list of Co-Sponsors of this bill bringing the number to 36!
Update: 5/14/2009 1 more Senator added her name to the list of Co-Sponsors of this bill bringing the number to 34!
Update: 5/4/2009 2 more Senators added their names to the list of Co-Sponsors of this bill bringing the number to 33!
Update: 4/23/2009 1 more Senator added his name to the list of Co-Sponsors of this bill bringing the number to 31!
Update: 4/21/2009 1 more Senator added his name to the list of Co-Sponsors of this bill bringing the number to 30!
Update: 4/20/2009 4 more Senators add their names to the list of Co-Sponsors of this bill bringing the number to 29!
Update: 3/9/2009 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services.

List of current Co-Sponsors;

Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] – 3/10/2009
Sen Lincoln, Blanche L. [AR] – 3/10/2009
Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] – 3/10/2009
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] – 3/10/2009
Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. [CT] – 3/10/2009
Sen Brown, Sherrod [OH] – 3/10/2009
Sen Whitehouse, Sheldon [RI] – 3/10/2009
Sen Johnson, Tim [SD] – 3/10/2009
Sen Wyden, Ron [OR] – 3/10/2009
Sen Shelby, Richard C. [AL] – 3/10/2009
Sen Murray, Patty [WA] – 3/11/2009
Sen Dorgan, Byron L. [ND] – 3/12/2009
Sen Cardin, Benjamin L. [MD] – 3/12/2009
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] – 3/12/2009
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. [MD] – 3/12/2009
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] – 3/16/2009
Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] – 3/16/2009
Sen Specter, Arlen [PA] – 3/17/2009
Sen Vitter, David [LA] – 3/18/2009
Sen Cochran, Thad [MS] – 3/19/2009
Sen Tester, Jon [MT] – 3/23/2009
Sen Burris, Roland [IL] – 3/23/2009
Sen Sessions, Jeff [AL] – 3/25/2009
Sen Menendez, Robert [NJ] – 4/1/2009
Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] – 4/2/2009
Sen Snowe, Olympia J. [ME] – 4/20/2009
Sen Nelson, Bill [FL] – 4/20/2009
Sen Collins, Susan M. [ME] – 4/20/2009
Sen Casey, Robert P., Jr. [PA] – 4/20/2009
Sen Dodd, Christopher J. [CT] – 4/21/2009
Sen Udall, Tom [NM] – 4/23/2009
Sen Sanders, Bernard [VT] – 5/4/2009
Sen Begich, Mark [AK] – 5/4/2009
Sen Hutchison, Kay Bailey [TX] – 5/14/2009
Sen Bennet, Michael F. [CO] – 5/19/2009
Sen Bingaman, Jeff [NM] – 5/19/2009
Sen Feinstein, Dianne [CA] – 6/3/2009
Sen Udall, Mark [CO] – 6/3/2009
Sen Brownback, Sam [KS] – 6/17/2009
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT] – 6/25/2009

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 546

To amend title 10, United States Code, to permit certain retired members of the uniformed services who have a service-connected disability to receive both disability compensation from the Department of Veterans Affairs for their disability and either retired pay by reason of their years of military service or Combat-Related Special Compensation.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

March 9, 2009

Mr. REID introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services

A BILL

To amend title 10, United States Code, to permit certain retired members of the uniformed services who have a service-connected disability to receive both disability compensation from the Department of Veterans Affairs for their disability and either retired pay by reason of their years of military service or Combat-Related Special Compensation.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Retired Pay Restoration Act of 2009′.

SEC. 2. ELIGIBILITY FOR PAYMENT OF BOTH RETIRED PAY AND VETERANS’ DISABILITY COMPENSATION FOR CERTAIN MILITARY RETIREES WITH COMPENSABLE SERVICE-CONNECTED DISABILITIES.

(a) Extension of Concurrent Receipt Authority to Retirees With Service-Connected Disabilities Rated Less Than 50 Percent-

(1) REPEAL OF 50 PERCENT REQUIREMENT- Section 1414 of title 10, United States Code, is amended by striking paragraph (2) of subsection (a).

(2) COMPUTATION- Paragraph (1) of subsection (c) of such section is amended by adding at the end the following new subparagraph:

`(G) For a month for which the retiree receives veterans’ disability compensation for a disability rated as 40 percent or less or has a service-connected disability rated as zero percent, $0.’.

(b) Clerical Amendments-

(1) The heading of section 1414 of such title is amended to read as follows:

`Sec. 1414. Members eligible for retired pay who are also eligible for veterans’ disability compensation: concurrent payment of retired pay and disability compensation’.

(2) The item relating to such section in the table of sections at the beginning of chapter 71 of such title is amended to read as follows:

`1414. Members eligible for retired pay who are also eligible for veterans’ disability compensation: concurrent payment of retired pay and disability compensation.’.

(c) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall take effect on January 1, 2009, and shall apply to payments for months beginning on or after that date.

SEC. 3. COORDINATION OF SERVICE ELIGIBILITY FOR COMBAT-RELATED SPECIAL COMPENSATION AND CONCURRENT RECEIPT.

(a) Amendments To Standardize Similar Provisions-

(1) QUALIFIED RETIREES- Subsection (a) of section 1414 of title 10, United States Code, as amended by section 2(a), is amended–

(A) by striking `a member or’ and all that follows through `retiree’)’ and inserting `a qualified retiree’; and

(B) by adding at the end the following new paragraph:

`(2) QUALIFIED RETIREES- For purposes of this section, a qualified retiree, with respect to any month, is a member or former member of the uniformed services who–

`(A) is entitled to retired pay (other by reason of section 12731b of this title); and

`(B) is also entitled for that month to veterans’ disability compensation.’.

(2) DISABILITY RETIREES- Paragraph (2) of subsection (b) of section 1414 of such title is amended to read as follows:

`(2) SPECIAL RULE FOR RETIREES WITH FEWER THAN 20 YEARS OF SERVICE- The retired pay of a qualified retiree who is retired under chapter 61 of this title with fewer than 20 years of creditable service is subject to reduction by the lesser of–

`(A) the amount of the reduction under sections 5304 and 5305 of title 38; or

`(B) the amount (if any) by which the amount of the member’s retired pay under such chapter exceeds the amount equal to 2 1/2 percent of the member’s years of creditable service multiplied by the member’s retired pay base under section 1406(b)(1) or 1407 of this title, whichever is applicable to the member.’.

(b) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall take effect on January 1, 2009, and shall apply to payments for months beginning on or after that date.


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  1. Flash says:

    FW,

    PEBs per 10 U.S.C do rate a permanent disability as 30% or more. The 50% rating was based upon standard and poor Labor Department classifications of SSD/PPD. That is what Congress initially changed.

    Remember, you are only retired under PEBs for a single “sole stand alone” disability (unless directly connected to another DC–Diagnostic Code). The VA combines ratings (not directly) to decide a veterans complete disability.

    In regards to the SSD and VA compensation; I am only aware of the stipulation in 38 C.F.R. (Chapter 3) (VA) does not allow for compensation if SSD has been applied for and approved. VA Appeal Boards have re-couped for Veterans receiving both in some cases. I have little knowledge past this.

  2. John says:

    Well, I finally got my results back from the VA. Actually, it was super fast, I just retired(after 12 years under chapter 61) on 31JUN09 and my results came back today. Anyways, the VA rated me at 100%. So, since I’m rated 100 percent by both the VA and the PEB, does that mean that I’ll receive 2.5 X 12(Number of years in service) of my base pay AND the VA disability payment? Or has this changed?
    Thanks and take it easy,
    John

  3. DK says:

    John,

    First, congrats. When I retired under Ch. 61 w/ 17 years of service, it also took about a month for VA to process me. The process is much quicker when you go from MEB to VA while still on AD.

    If Concurrent receipt is passed per what is now in the House Bill (and, I understand, introduced as an amendment by Sen. Reid yesterday, but not yet voted on in the Senate), then yes, you would receive the 100% VA pay (about $2680 plus a bit more if you have dependents), and the 2.5 X 12 X (high three avg) base pay. (The computation is different if your service-connected condition that made you unfit is combat related or caused by an instrumentality of war and you apply for CRSC.)

    But the “if” is the key word. We won’t know FOR SURE until we see what comes out of the final conference report of the appropriations committees — and that’s weeks/months down the pike.

  4. DK says:

    Also – I should add, the CR payment for you would begin on 1 Jan 10 and is not “retro-active” per se. The current legislation, if approved, begins 1 Jan for Ch. 61 Vets rated 100%, 90%, or IU. If you re-read this entire thread, you should be pretty clued in — lots of good insights here.

  5. Bill Starcher says:

    Hello. I am 100% rated disabled veteran with well under 20 years service. I was disabled during my first training exercise. From what I read in HR 2990 which was passed in the house, 100% and 90% disabled veterans with fewer than 20 years service will receive their retired pay. Obama said he would sign the bill but the senate has to approve similar legislation by a 2/3 vote or 67 senators. All veterans need to contact their senators and request they pass the language in the house bill. If this passes, you military people with lower disability rating will be next for increased benefits. Help the 100%’s and the door will be opened for you of less disability ratings! Veterans need to help each other.

  6. DK says:

    Bill –
    Not sure where you got the 2/3 equation. No such provision exists. If you are referring to overturning a potential presidential VETO, it has nothing to do with the CRDP provision…
    Also, if you have “well under 20 years” the new legislation, even if passed, might not increase your pay. Your retired pay will be recalculated based on years of service (not the current disability retirement pay DFAS says you earn, which is offset by the VA payments)… The greatest beneficiaries of the proposed legislation are those will under 20 years, but closest to that Time in Service.

    That said, your larger point, that veterans should support veterans, is valid and right on!

  7. Roger says:

    My crsc payment is 59.00 dollors per month discharged with 90% permanent 1969 over 2.5 years credited years. because of method [A]and method [B]
    method [A].If you enter the military before Sep. 7 1980
    Method [B] if you entered the military after Sep.7 1980
    I get less then those who entered after Sep.7 receive alot more money I dont think its fare.

  8. DK says:

    According to MOAA, although the F-22 funding has gotten all the oxygen this week in the senate, there are more than 100 amendments to be offered in the coming week. They urge everyone to contact his/her senators via email, phone, or snail mail urging support of the amendments to be offered by Senator Reid. According to MOAA:

    Concurrent Receipt – Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) is offering two concurrent receipt amendments. The first mirrors the Administration’s five-year phase-in proposal to extend concurrent receipt to all medically retired servicemembers, regardless of years of service. His second amendment would correct a calculation “glitch” for certain recipients of Combat-Related Special Compensation.

    Stay tuned…

  9. alvasteve says:

    Well, concurrent receipt passed the senate! Does anyone know the details of the bill in it’s final writing? For instance, does it just involve the 100%ers with less than 20 years? And, is it just funded for 9 months? Seems we have a lot of knowledge out there providing us with information. Thanks people and God Bless!!!!

  10. DK says:

    Alvasteve:
    No, CR did NOT pass the Senate. Reid’s bill was entered for consideration but did not make the final cut… VFW and others sent out an early, (incorrect), note that it had been included… it wasn’t. See MOAA’s site for current update.

    It still has legs, as the House approved it so it could be part of the final conference report… but it is now much less certain…

  11. alvasteve says:

    Thanks DK:

    Hope springs eternal!

  12. Richard Abell says:

    Gentlemen – Where is Senator Webb of Virginia in all of this? I did not view his name on the list of sponsors? And, are there actuall any known senators adverse to passage of this act? Thank you. Godspeed. RBA

  13. DK says:

    While no one will ever “lead the charge” against any veterans program, there are many senators who will argue against the larger issue of expanded entitlements and so effectively, do nothing to support this legislation.

    Webb has been silent. I think since he was so instrumental in the formation and passage of the “new G.I.” bill, he’s sort of immune from criticism on veterans issues for now. I did write to him some months back and like Warner, I got a vague “I continue to support our men and women in uniform…” sort of response from him.

    I think that if there is genuine support for the improvements for Ch. 61 retirees, the Senate committee will simply defer to the House version, thereby avoiding giving much credit to Sen. Reid. His support of the “gun” amendment and especially, his altering the debate schedule to highlight the hate crimes issue during the NDAA floor debate irked both McCain and Levin, so there may have been some “pay back” in not acting on his signature contribution to this years’ authorization bill. Just my 2 cents…

  14. sandy says:

    DK I believe you hit it right on,so ch 61′s hang in there, I do believe they are doing a little “PAY BACK” SANDY

  15. Flash says:

    ALCON,

    DK is right on the ball with his informative detailing. Although stalled in the Senate, the House bill will generate debate and force the issue for review. I wish I could say more, just know discussions are continuing….

    At this point, I urge those of you to take an active role. Here are some examples:

    1.) Don’t just write your Sen/H.R., send them a list of “co-authors”: Have people that support the cause sign on to the letter…this gives the reader more reason for thought (it works for staffers, trust me).

    2.) Consider calling your local media outlets. Give them a brief overview and directions for research. Stay away from “telling them whats going on”. Media interns, writers, etc…will do the work and report on the issue. Too much “one sided conversations” turn them off. Give them an idea for a story, and watch them run. Point to MOAA articles, cite bill numbers, etc…

    3. Write the VFW, DVA, MOAA, etc…and tell them “we need their support”. Its interesting how a little pushing can re-vitalize a movement. Contact staff writers, authors of previous articles on CR, etc… Rememember, this is a hot story…

    4. Look for local party meetings. Bet there is one in the next couple of weeks. They are usually free, have influential people there, and generate questions for lawmakers. Most small networking happens there and crucial points find their way to larger party members (i.e. state and federal members). It may seem trivial, but experience has shown, well, lets just say some large voices have been heard this way!!

    One thing I can assuredly teach everyone that its not the CAUSE that wins, its the degree of VOICE the cause has. Simply, this is important only to the extent that it reaches attention at the appropriate level.

    Keep praying, staying active, and supporting each other. Their is hope all!!

    DK, thanks for all the input. Unfortunately, conflict of interest keeps be at a minimum. You are an intelligent and diligent resource for fellow veterans.

    A news report was just out on British vet support (or lack thereof by the British government). It was done by the CBC…has anyone thought of contacting the British media, NPR, CBC. Do you see where I am going here. How about Lars Larson, Glen Beck, etc…

    I suggest an approach as such:

    CR was intended to support “disabled” veterans…period. It was initiated at an obscure direction: towards those who served 20 years, and not discharged for being “disabled”. Then it was broadened for those combat related “disabled”. Then for the IU…but what about those ACTUALLY retired for a service-connected” disability (Chp 61)?

    See, the point was reached simply, in one paragraph, and asks for further thought. Bias is left out. The reader does not turn off.

    If one stays away from conjecture, points to the fact, and really asks the question…there will have to be an answer. I recently asked this question. It was followed by “Sure would be an interesting story, huh? Maybe I should think of this more”. I recieved a concerned response.

    There is still a movement here. Maybe not this year, but presidence has been set all!!!

  16. Loki says:

    Concurrent Receipt Order of Battle:

    I am one of the Chap 61 retirees w/ 14 yrs los. This affects me directly. (Full disclosure)

    NDAA 2010 conferees from the senate are: Levin, Kennedy, Byrd, Lieberman, Reed, Akaka, Nelson (FL), Nelson (NE), Bayh, Webb, McCaskill, Udall (CO), Hagan, Begich, Burris, McCain, Inhofe, Sessions, Chambliss, Graham, Thune, Martinez, Wicker, Burr, Vitter, and Collins.

    House conferees haven’t been announced yet. Conference committee not expected to convene until after August recess. Everybody has plenty of time to make their voice, their family’s voice, their friend’s voice, and their enemy’s voice heard.

    Funding offset for concurrent receipt is less than ONE PERCENT of the NDAA appropriation (number I saw was .014).

    Worst case scenario for pay out was less that $5 billion per anum for 10 years.

    This is a cool website. Since Skelton got this thing off the ground with at least “start-up” money, we should be howling (in a tightly-reasoned, polite way) at congress and the media for the “right thing” to get accomplished here.

    Happy hunting.

    XSpook

  17. DK says:

    Today’s update from MOAA explains a lot. It seems that even with the Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid leading the charge, and no apparent objection for inclusion of Obama’s proposal for Concurrent Receipt for Chapter 61 retirees, it only takes one senator to block a “unanimous consent” motion, which was the vehicle intended to include Reid’s amendment in the Senate’s NDAA. It turns out that Senator Tom Colburn (R-OK) was the lone voice that blocked the amendment from being included. MOAA has the full story in the link below, but here’s the “money quote”:

    “Coburn Stymies Concurrent Receipt Amendment
    We were surprised to learn that Sen. Harry Reid’s concurrent receipt amendment in the Senate version of the NDAA was stymied by Sen. Tom Coburn just before the final vote on the bill.
    Sen. Reid’s amendment would have phased out the disability offset for all chapter 61 retirees over a five year period. But concurrent receipt progress in this year’s defense bill is still a very strong possibility, despite the failure of the Senate amendment.”

    The full link is here:
    http://www.moaa.org/lac/lac_issues/lac_issues_major/lac_issues_major_retired/lac_issues_major_retired_coburn.htm

  18. FW says:

    Veterans organizations and every veteran in the state of Oklahoma shold rise up and demand that Coburn be thrown out of office. He has no problem sending our sons, daughters, grand children to fight a war he supported then turn his back on them when they return broken….. Members of any veterans organization should contact their National headquartes and strongly encourage them to demand a public accounting from this person, take his anti veteran position to the public…..

  19. Dan says:

    What I email about oeveryother day to whitehouse and congress…

    Sir/Ma’am

    Imperatively needed is a Bill or AMMENDMENT to help in paving a way to helprelieve the blatant inequity towards military retirees with service connected disability. The unfair reduction of Military Earned Retirement pay [which is a Right of Earned blood, Sweat and Sacrifice for all AMERICA]and the compensation from VA for disabilities associated from Service connected injuries, should be separate in of themselves – not combined. It is unfair to reduce one’s retirement pay by the disability dollar amountearned.

    Did I mention – It is unfair and has no equal in the BELTWAY. I am sure the stipends and pensions the Senate and House have for themselves – are without reductions.

    Please enact legislation AND repeal immediately the 50% VA rule, in order to allow all Retirees to receive concurrent full retirement and any portioned VA disability they have earned thru Sacrifice – “Concurrent Receipt of Retirement Pay.”

    The ACT should allow for retroactive payment from Sep 2001, for a
    Grandfathering point. It would provide constituent vote and needed AMERICAN STIMULUS.

    I plan to email about every other day my senators and the whitehouse with this.

    V/r Dan Anders II, MSgt, USAF (Ret.)

  20. alvasteve says:

    I sent the following email to Senator Tom Coburn.

    Sen. Coburn
    I would like an explanation as to why you did not vote unanimously along with your fellow senators on the Concurrent Receipt bill? Your answer to the MOAA that there is not sufficient funding lacks argument as the other senators do not see this as an issue worth stopping the bill for even though they are aware of this concern. I am a 100% disabled Viet Nam veteran with only 12 years of naval service. Therefore, I am one of those left out of collecting, in my case, about $800.00 more a month as income. I am 71 years old and gave my health to my country. All I and the rest of us chapter 61 retirees are asking is that we be allowed to collect retirement for those years we served. That is what Concurrent Receipt is all about. It is not about you, it is not about the government nor is it about those that manage our government. It is about paying the men and woman the money they earned while defending this country. Period!
    Respectfully,
    Steve PO1 US Navy Retired

  21. DK says:

    alvasteve:
    Great letter. Thanks for your service.
    I’m trying to find news outlets in OKLA (and Ft. Sill) to pick up this story. If Colburn wants the money offset up front, FINE, but WHAT I NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT HAS “HE” DONE TO FIND IT? I bet the answer is “NADA.” But the question should be asked/ANSWERED.

  22. lesdamess says:

    Bully for all who support Veterans and their families. I am a disabled widow of a 100% disabled Veteran who died of a service-connected injury. I have been turned down once in the SS automated system and am applying yet again. There are no resources I can find in Oklahoma that I can get to as walking is a difficulty. How many other spouses in Oklahoma are finding it this hard to survive? I want to talk to them, find out if anything worked. Homeless, poor and struggling in Oklahoma. On good days I can make it to the Library. lesdamess

  23. FW says:

    Lesdames, I highly recommend you send a letter to the editor of every news paper in your area, write it to all of the spouses like yourself and ask for a reply from them via the news papers. What you sent here would probably do just fine. Keep sending in your letter until they publish it. A separate letter naming Senator Coburn as an anti-veteran politician might help to create some very good feed back. If memory serves me right, the people in Oklahoma like the Military, at least they did when I was stationed there.

  24. Dan says:

    Team – I have been emailing and sending my request everywhere for the last 4 weeks – the Bastards are at recess…Hence no one is runing the daycare…What now do we do???

    I will keep sending, but what else…is there any hope?

    V/r Dan Anders II, MSgt, USAF (Ret)

  25. FW says:

    Dan, keep mailing, their office staff keeps up on all the incoming mail, a lot of them have town hall meetings, call their home town offices. Talk to the staff when ever you can, they do the foot work and pass on the message. Don’t give up hope, that’s when they beat us………..

  26. Flash says:

    Lesdamess,

    Go to the Federal Building in Oklahoma City (believe of of 4th street), first floor is the VA. Talk to Rhonda (Service Rep.) and ask what to do. Take every bit of paperwork you have! In addition, contact the DAV or VFW (located around Oklahoma and in the VA hospital in OKC). They will need all the available documents you have. If you have been turned down for benefits you are eligible for, it is because the right paperwork probably hasn’t been filled and supported by your documentation.

    Remember, in most cases you only have 12 months to file an appeal, in some cases even lease. I’m not clear on what you require, so I don’t know for sure. You can also request a DRO (Decision Review Officer). This is faster and may help process your request. Muskogee is your regional office. Look them up or get there and ask questions…they are very supportive.

    Flash

  27. Eddie says:

    i also sent a email to Senator coburn.. i am a 100% disabled and was much looking fwd to getting my retirement check back and what a slap in the face by one senator that wants to play politics with our earned money.. I am going to email bill o’reilly and glen beck of FOX news.. They seem to be able to get the msg out for Veterans. I encourage other to do the same and maybe they can put the heat on congress..

  28. Jerry Barbee says:

    I contacted Senator Coburn’s Office today to voice my disbelief that he was the only Senator not to support us Chapter 61 veterans with HR 2990. I ask they we stand together on this and please contact his offices in Washinton as well as Oklahoma. If he gets enough complaints for lack of support for us Vets maybe he will start to re think his views.

    Washington office 202-224-5754
    Oklahoma office 405-231-4941

  29. Eddie says:

    I found this website that will generate letters to your senators.
    All you do is put in your zip code and click go.. You can also add to the text..

  30. Dan says:

    Question to all – will we see or expect to se concurrent receipt for 20 year reitrees at 40% or lower. And would those who had to be medically reitres see concurrent receipt?

    V/r Dan Anders II, MSgt, USAF (Ret)

  31. Rusty says:

    That is their question isn’t it? I’ve been waiting for the answer to that one sense 1998 and must say if it hasn’t happened by now chances are it more than likely won’t. Seems like everyone is on board when the pres ain’t and when the pres is they aren’t spouting spend spend spend till its for ,vets then its we can’t afford it but end the end its wait and see hope for the best expect the worst have a great day best wishes to all. SSG.(R) Rusty

  32. FW says:

    I received this email from another site. Email Coburn and tell him what we think of his anti-disabled-veteran position……..

    08/10/09 14:41:25
    Well, I just contacted Sen. Coburn’s office in Oklahoma and spoke to a very cordial gentleman by the name of Gregory Treat. After explaining my displeasure with the Senator’s actions to block Ch. 61′s to receive CRDP he forwarded me this response from Sen. Coburn (in RED) which am posting below, enjoy:

    Mr. Taylor,

    Thank you for your service and sacrifice on behalf of our country. Below is the response that Dr. Coburn sent to me pertaining to the amendment that would have provided concurrent receipt benefits. If you have any feedback it would probably be easier if you sent it as an email so I could forward it to Senator Coburn.

    Thank you,

    Gregory Treat
    Office of United States Senator Tom Coburn

    Office: (405) 231-4941
    Fax: (405) 231-5051
    Cell: (405) 397-0920

    Email: greg_treat[at]coburn.senate.gov
    Web: http://www.coburn.senate.gov

    During debate on the National Defense Authorization Act, I opposed an amendment that would have provided concurrent receipt benefits to certain medically retired disabled veterans. This provision, submitted by Senator Harry Reid, identified no wasteful or duplicative government programs for elimination in order to pay for it. The cost as estimated by the Congressional Budget Office is an increase in federal spending of $5.1 billion over the next 10 years. The proposal, while worthy, is an example of how the United States Congress refuses to make tough choices between competing priorities. This year, the Senate Armed Services Committee earmarked 426 projects for over $9 billion to the Defense Authorization Act. These projects are not subject to competitive bidding process, are for parochial interests, and are of unknown relevance to our men and women in uniform. I would fully support rescinding these earmarks or eliminating other wasteful or duplicative spending to pay for concurrent receipt for medically retired disabled veterans.

    Senator Coburn

  33. Jerry says:

    I think us Veterans would have been better served if Senator Coburn would have come up with ways to find the money for us Chapter 61 vets , rather than voicing against receiving our earned benefits. Just another unfriendly in the Senate.

  34. FW says:

    Rachel Maddow of MSNBC will be on Meet the Press this Sunday. One of the other guests is the disabled veterans #1 enemy Senator Tom Coburn, thought I’d give it a try……..

    FW

    Rachel,

    Looking forward to Meet The Press this Sunday, kick ‘em where it hurts. If you get a chance please ask Senator Tom Coburn why he cast the lone no vote that killed Senator Reids amendment that would have approved the Senates Concurrent Receipt benefits for thousands of Severly Disabled Veterans of all wars past and present. Ask the Senator how he can sleep at night knowing he’s turned his back on Severly Disabled men and women who stood watch at night so he and his family could safely sleep in their safe secure home. As these wars continue there are thousands of young men and women everyday who are becoming Disabled Veterans. They’re the ones he’s harmed the most.

    Regards,
    FW

  35. Dan Anders II says:

    Sen Coburn,

    WE THE PEOPLE feel you need to fix the problem, the earmarks are one thing but Disability Veterans deserve better. Retired pay is earned – just as you assume yours is. In our case, we take the hit for you, so we get injured and disabled on top of the Sacrifice. The concurrent reciept for all retirees is a JUST and DESERVING funding. The other stuff is political horse-&^&*!

    We the People, are not happy with your performance on this very Rightous issue. I hope you do not sleep well knowing many others continue to suffer becuase of your action and inaction.

    Please re-initiate the concurrewnt receipt ammendment into the NDAA 2010 for all retirees effective Jan 2010.

    Our Lord will be Judge of our Life – We the People are Judge of our Representives in Congress.

    I pray you feel to do something RIGHT because it is RIGHT versus “beltway politics as usual.”

    Please call anytime to discuss,

    V/r
    Danny Anders II, MSgt, USAF (Ret)
    937-564-2342

  36. DK says:

    I think President Obama’s reiteration to the VFW of his support for Concurrent Receipt — repeated yesterday — can only be a good thing as Senate and House conferees and staffers haggle over the final NDAA product. Here’s part of what President Obama said on August 17, 2009, with a link to the full speech following:

    “We’re keeping our promise on concurrent receipt. My budget ensures that our severely disabled veterans will receive both their military retired pay and their VA disability benefits. And I look forward to signing legislation on advanced appropriations for the VA so that the medical care you need is never held up by budget delays.”

    http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/143101

  37. FW says:

    I received this from the Fleet Reserve Association (FRA).

    Putting a hold on a Senate floor amendment would not be reflected in his voting record. Coburn was elected to House of Rep. in 1994. He promised to serve only 3 terms (6 years) and actually kept his word. When Senator Don Nickles announced he would not seek re-election in 2004, Coburn ran and won. He is a “budget hawk” and is famous or infamous for stopping the “bridge to no where” in Alaska in 2005. He is up for re-election in 2010.

    John R. Davis
    Director, Legislative Programs
    Fleet Reserve Association
    125 N. West Street
    Alexandria, VA 22314
    tel. (703) 683-1400 x-110
    fax: (703) 549-6610

  38. Edward A. McGIlly says:

    The 5 Billion Dollars that will be used for the next 10 years that Senator Coburn said is required to finance Bill H-R 2990 is a missleading statment. The July 6,2009 issue of the Air Force Times disected the percentage that would be dispursed with in the Bill. The concurrent section is only 6% of this entire amount. The amount of Veterans that it would be recipiants is 121,000. The rest of Bill HR-2990 is for goverment employees benafits and National Guard issues. I think Senator Coburn could eliminate quite a few Billion from this Bill alone. Enter it as a seperate Bill. Deal with the Gov. employees bennies. Concurrent pay is a D.O>D, Military issue. Why are Goverment workers include with the military section of the 2010. Stop using the medicaly retired as a place to crap.
    I have been medicaly retired from the U.S.A.F. since 1968 at the rate of E-3. Since then I had 26 surgaries and was on dialyses for 18 months. My son, Andrew at the young age of 23, who was also in the Air Force, donated his kidney so I could live. My family has to sacrifice quite a bit for my disabilaty. The Vets. that are disabled undestand my plite. The depression is unexplainable.
    I will stop the emotions are to great.
    Senator Coburn do the right thing. We are Americans that have felt the patriotism flow in our vains As we all took an oath to defend this great country.

  39. JT says:

    I sent an e-mail to Senator Coburn encouraging him to look at this site to understand the magnitude of his decision on this bill. Hopefully he will look at this site and reconsider his stance.

  40. Jerry says:

    I’m not sure if Senator Coburn has any more to say in this matter since Senator Coburn was the loan voice to stop this before it could go to vote in the Senate.

    It will be hashed out in September with committee’s on both sides The House and the Senate. I’m not sure if Senator Coburn will be on the Senate committe. ( Let’s hope not ) We already know his take on us Chapter 61 Vet’s.

    I could be wrong on this . Anyone know if he will be on the Senate committee in September. If he is God help us all.

  41. Dan says:

    TEAM – CALL TO ACT NOW!!! CHARGE!!! See below from MOAA and SEN BROWN. V/r Dan Anders II

    Dan,

    Thanks again for the advocacy. We posted the following in our legislative update on Friday to our members and others with an imbedded “alert” so they also can write their legislators.

    http://www.moaa.org/lac/lac_issues/lac_issues_update/lac_issues_update_090828.htm#issue4

    Please see the Coalition letter that outlined the recommendation of 5.5 million members on concurrent receipt.

    As for what else you can do…I’d recommend forwarding either your letter or they can use ours to write their legislators and have their voices heard.

    We’re close…hopefully a little pressure will help keep the House provision in the final bill.

    Sincerely, Mike

    Michael F. Hayden, Colonel, USAF (Ret.) Deputy Director, Government Relations Military Officers Association of America (MOAA)
    201 N Washington St, Alexandria, VA 22314-2539
    (800) 234-6622, ext 123; (703) 838-8123; fax (703) 838-8173 http://www.moaa.org

    One Powerful Voice.® For every officer at every stage of life and career.

    NDAA 2010 > http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/assets/fy2010_new_era/Department_of_Defense.pdf

    Here is what I rec’d from Senator Brown (D_OH) :

    Dear Mr. Anders Ii:

    Thank you for sharing your views on concurrent receipt of retired pay and disability compensation. I appreciate your advocacy on this issue.

    Military retirees with disabilities incurred during their military service may receive retired pay from the Department of Defense (DOD) and may be eligible for veteran’s disability compensation from the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). Current law requires military retirement pay be reduced by the amount of the veteran’s benefits.

    The 110th Congress extended the Combat Related Special Compensation program to include those who were medically retired prior to completing 20 years of service rather than a normal longevity retirement. In addition, those with a 100% VA Unemployability rating were granted full concurrent receipt, retroactive to December 31, 2004.

    I also joined Senator Harry Reid’s efforts to sign into law S.439, the Retired Pay Restoration Act. This legislation would allow concurrent receipt of military retirement pay and disability compensation for military retirees with service-connected disabilities rated less than 50 percent. It would also eliminate the phase-in of concurrent receipt benefits for retirees’ rated 90 percent or less and allow individuals who were forced into retirement under the Temporary Early Retirement Authority to apply for Combat-Related Special Compensation.

    On September 27, 2007 the Senate passed this legislation as an amendment to H.R.1585, the National Defense Authorization Act of 2007 and the President signed this bill into law in early 2008.

    As the Senate considers the National Defense Authorization Act of 2009, I will be sure to keep your views on this issue in mind. Thank you again for writing.

    Sincerely,

    Sherrod Brown
    United States Senator

  42. Dan says:

    HEY – WHERE IS EVERYONE!!!!

    http://www.moaa.org/lac/lac_issues/lac_issues_update/lac_issues_update_090828.htm#issue4

    Input the URL and click on take action – it send email letters to your SEN and REPS.

    GO!!!

    V/r DAN

    Please see the Coalition letter that outlined the recommendation of 5.5 million members

  43. NCCM(ret) says:

    Mine has been sent – everyone else on board yet?

  44. JT says:

    Mine has been sent and forwarded to my friends.

  45. Lon Z. Shuler says:

    I have waiting for 41 years. I am 81.(CMSgt,USAF(retired,1968,23 years,with 30 percent permanent disability) Congress doesn’t have the right to make a law without due process. The military are the only one’s who have our constitutional rights violated. The US Constitution, “Admendment 5:”–No person shall — without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use,without just compensation”. Veterans’ disability compensation is an entitlement program,like medicare and social security; that creates a property interest protecdted by the Due Process Clause of the US Constitution. Once a veteran has been approved to receive disability pay, he or she is entitled to receive annual payment andcost-of-living adjustment 38 USC, Section 1104. I wonder
    if Senator Corbin,(R-OK)is aware of this? I think they believe we will just fade away like those who had “Agent Orange.” Seantor Reid said: “It is simply absurd to deny disable veterans every dollar they deserve.” We are the only one’s in this nation who are considered “second class citzens”. How does make us feel?

  46. Jerry says:

    Mine went out last week. We all need to do this to get a shot at Justice. Let’s band together. Strength in numbers.

  47. tom says:

    found this web site when looking up info on concurrent for chapter 61 vets. also the pic of the IKE really got me my old ship i served on . emailed all my US senators Spector an casey which are both co sponpser and are really for it but my repensative glenn o thompson is not for it so any one in PA who is repensatine by thompson should write him and askk him for his support

  48. DK says:

    Just my 2 cents, but I’ve heard that an old-fashioned, hard copy letter has more impact. MOAA has templates of letters, ready to print, but a personalizing note (handwritten) doesn’t hurt either. I would encourage everyone to use three of their 42-cent stamps and, in addition to the emails, send written notes to all your senators/representatives. Some of their offices breakdown tallies by email/ phone messages/ letters.

  49. melchor Quitoriano says:

    To all concerned sponsors,
    I was medically retired in the Navy back in Sep 07 due to the massive stroke I suffered in April 07. That was 2 months happened after my deployment from Iraq. I s it too much for you fellows to realize that being in the service, our time with our family instead. We took care what we supposed to accomplished and now cannot work no more. What am I gonna tell my daughter, that even to receive our benefits that I or we need to beg? Please approve this and let us make it happen for us, because the word us is we the American people. And God bless us all. thanks Chief Quitoriano

  50. Jerry says:

    Response to Chief Quitoriano. Hang in there Chief. We have a good shot at this for January 2010 although there are no guarantees. As for your Daughter Tell her you served Honorably I’m sure she is very proud of you. Jerry

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